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Offline Fanny

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »
He has his own webpage?
https://therealistguide.com

How much did that cost sspx laity?


Complete with an "ask fr. Robinson" section.  I was always taught a priest is never supposed to have an internet presence like this.  How liberal the sspx is becoming...
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Offline 1st Mansion Tenant

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2018, 12:40:35 PM »
Quote from: Fanny on February 28, 2018, 12:26:34 PM
He has his own webpage?
https://therealistguide.com

How much did that cost sspx laity?


Complete with an "ask fr. Robinson" section.  I was always taught a priest is never supposed to have an internet presence like this.  How liberal the sspx is becoming...
hmm.. wasn't that one of the complaints Menz used against +W to justify his expulsion? 
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2018, 12:51:47 PM »
The SSPX teaches that non-Catholics can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards. If after reading all the dogmas on EENS, they can come to that conclusion, then there is nothing that they can write about that is not suspect. There is no teaching of the Catholic Church, that is as dogmatically defined as EENS, yet the SSPX completely denies all those dogmas in their teaching that non-Catholics can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards. What is one to make of their teachings on other subjects which are still speculative like the sedevacantes question, the Vatican II church, Vatican II, the validity of new bishops and priests, and in this case Creationism?

Well, my answer is that I totally dismiss everything they teach, just like Fr. Robinson's book. I would not read the first page. The SSPX are blind guides and dupes, at least those that teach that non-Catholics can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards, I have not found one SSPX priests that does not go along with the teaching that that non-Catholics can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards.

They are so blinded by their love of smells and bells that they do not realize that Vatican II was all about brainwashing Catholics to believe that non-Catholics can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards.
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2018, 05:48:06 PM »
Quote from: klasG4e on February 28, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
Einstein, the atheist and major plagiarist, led a very immoral sɛҳuąƖ life.  His sɛҳuąƖ "relativism." among other negative aspects of his life including its Jєωιѕн overlay, may well have had a major impact in "relativizing" his scientific thinking or as some would say scientific fantasizing; a kind of scientific though/fantasy that served as the remedy/pretext for pushing aside the up till then extremely solid real scientific evidence that the Earth was motionless in space with the universe carried by the aether revolving once every day around it.

Consider that Einstein and Oppenheimer were both zionists who used America as a resource base to fund the jews "Golem" bomb. They tested it out on the largest Catholic Cathedral in Asia and later used it to arm the future zionist state, Israel.  
But poor Father Robinson doesn't know or care about that.
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Offline Merry

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2018, 08:41:07 PM »
From the Australian seminary - there is a disclaimer about part of the forward:


SSPX Seminary Professor Releases New Book: The Realist Guide to Religion and Science
February 27, 2018
fsspx.news

Fr Paul Robinson of Holy Cross Seminary in Golburn, Australia has published a book on realist philosophy, affirming that science and truth come from the same Divine source.
Just released is a new book entitled The Realist Guide to Religion and Science. Written at Holy Cross Seminary by Fr Paul Robinson, the book takes a thesis of the late, great Fr Stanley Jaki, and tries to provide it a philosophical foundation. His idea was that epistemological realism is a necessary mental precondition for anyone wanting to do science or religion reasonably. Fr Jaki buttressed his argument with many historical examples in his Gifford Lectures, but oftentimes his points are lost in his elevated and complex style. Moreover, he wrote more as an historian than a philosopher, yet his thesis is essentially philosophical.
Thus, Fr. Robinson saw an opening for a contribution to be made to the general conversation about the relation between religion and science. His book argues that epistemological realism is absolutely necessary to broker any peaceful co-existence of religion and science. The reason is that only realism is reasonable. And disagreements come when people are unreasonable. To be more specific, people and cultures of religion or science become unreasonable and come into conflict when they adopt non-realist worldviews.
 
 Typically, religions have tended toward an idealism that devalues the material world and the empirical data that it provides, trumping that data by some a priori construct deriving from a false notion of God or a literalist reading of a sacred text. Typically, scientists have tended toward an empiricism that denies the existence or at least the intellectual worth of what is beyond the senses, thereby relegating religion to the realms of illusion or uselessness. If believers and scientists are realist, these unfortunate conflicts do not happen. On the contrary, by definition, they cannot happen.
 
 The book is broken up into three sections, the first considering realist principles and the realist view of reality, the second considering religions going wrong without realism, and the third considering science going wrong without realism.
Fr Daniel Themann, rector of Holy Cross Seminary, read and censored the entire manuscript. He warmly recommends the book in the following words:
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The Realist Guide goes beyond the normal Catholic apologetic which usually limits itself to showing that there is no contradiction between genuine religion and genuine science.  Fr Robinson takes the broader view and demonstrates that, throughout history, the perennial conflict which has bloodied the intellectual landscape has rather been the struggle between rationality and irrationality – science and religion being, not the antagonists, but rather the battlefields.  The attentive reader must come ready to think and ready to learn.  Whether or not you will agree with all of his conclusions, do not cheat yourself out of the insights which this book provides in abundance.
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Visit the book's website
In the USA: Buy the book from Angelus Press.
 Outside the USA: Buy the book from Gracewing Publications
Note on the Foreword
Fr Robinson would like to express his profound gratitude to Rev Dr Paul Haffner for publishing The Realist Guide to Religion and Science through Gracewing Publishers, of which he is the theological and editorial director. Fr Robinson is also grateful to Father Haffner for writing the foreword to his book. Father Haffner, in addition to being a professor at the Gregorian University in Rome for the past 30 years, is a specialist on the work of the late Father Stanley Jaki and The Realist Guide attempts to provide a philosophical backbone to the thesis of Fr Jaki’s Gifford Lectures of 1974–1975 and 1975–1976 (published as The Road of Science and the Ways to God). Thus, it was most appropriate for Father Haffner to compose the foreword for The Realist Guide, and Fr Robinson is pleased of Fr Haffner’s approval of his attempt to popularize Fr Jaki’s work.
In the foreword, Fr Haffner makes reference to the support of the Conciliar Popes for realism. In doing so, he assigns to Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II the titles of ‘Blessed’ and ‘Saint’ respectively. As Fr Robinson was not provided an opportunity to read the foreword before the publication of his book, he was not able to express his adherence to the position of the Society of St Pius X (SSPX) on the doubtful nature of the canonizations, because of the many changes in the canonization process. In addition, he was not able to reiterate the particular concerns about the canonization of Pope John Paul II that he expressed in his Nov./Dec. 2013 Angelus article ‘The Difference between a “Saint” and a “Saint”’.
Thus, the appearance of ‘Blessed’ and ‘Saint’ beside Paul VI and John Paul II in the foreword of The Realist Guide should in no way be construed as an acceptance by Fr Robinson of the modern canonizations or a deviation from his publicly expressed opinions on that subject or the position of the SSPX. Nor should the foreword be construed as implying that Fr Robinson believes that the Conciliar Popes have been realist in their philosophical outlook.[/size][/color]
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