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Author Topic: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"  (Read 8530 times)

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 11:14:35 AM »
The book didn't mention 'sspx seminary' because the sspx leadership wants to get rid of the 'us' vs 'them' mentality.  Therefore a catholic seminary is a catholic seminary, whether it's sspx, fssp, novus ordo, etc.

Surely this is another sign that step-by-step, +Fellay is conditioning the faithful for a "deal".  May God have mercy on his soul!
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Offline cathman7

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 11:18:54 AM »
A friend of mine said: 


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Perhaps given the subject matter they are looking to reach a larger audience who otherwise might instantly dismiss the work if they saw the words "SSPX". I'm not instantly convinced they is anything wrong here and am trying to give benefit of the doubt.
I may buy the book. 
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 11:22:23 AM »
It's also possible that mention of the sspx is left out due to the desire to spread the book by the author, who probably feels that this label would be rejected by the FSSP and other 'new church' conservatives, since new-rome tells everyone that the sspx is in schism.

Either way, I think one should be proud of the sspx and not hide behind generic statements in order to promote a book. 
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 12:11:20 PM »
Quote from: obscurus on January 30, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
I am absolutely not attacking a book I have not even read yet! This seems like a remarkable book and for that I applaud Fr. Robinson. However why can't the SSPX even mention that he entered a SSPX seminary? I guess it is obvious to most but it seems rather silly to omit this.

Again, I am not trying to nit-pick but found this point strange.

https://angeluspress.org/products/the-realist-guide-to-religion-and-science

FR. PAUL ROBINSON, A NATIVE OF KENTUCKY, USA, RECEIVED A MASTERS IN ENGINEERING MATHEMATICS AND COMPUTER SCIENCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. AFTER TWO YEARS IN THE FIELD, HE ENTERED A ROMAN CATHOLIC SEMINARY TO DISCERN HIS VOCATION. SINCE HIS ORDINATION IN 2006, HE HAS BEEN TEACHING THOMISTIC PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY.


It's another part of the SSPX's re-branding.  
With prelature relations, they're giving-up +ABL's Society label and identifying as generic "Roman Catholics".

On the surface, Father's book appears meritorious, but how could you ever trust a homegrown SSPX theologian?
A man who's been carrying political water for Menzingen?  

For example, when the Menzingen brotherhood doesn't want to believe in something non-mainstream like Geocentrism, they shut it down.  Menzingen's party line is Heliocentrism. We know this because Fr. Riccomini once advised the Phoenix faithful couldn't watch the movie "The Principle" at the priory because it was much too controversial.

Before endorsing John Salza, as an SSPX 3rd party propagandist, Menzingen strongly encouraged him to stop promoting geocentrism from his website.  He complied.

Without reading his book, we know Father Robinson lacks credibility as a Catholic professor for two reasons:

1. By condoning Bp. Fellay's "Rahnerite" Baptism theology (4 baptisms).
2. His twisted, assessment of +ABL's resistance history, to provide Menzingen cover for their newChurch prelature.
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Offline wallflower

Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 04:25:12 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on January 30, 2018, 12:11:20 PM
For example, when the Menzingen brotherhood doesn't want to believe in something non-mainstream like Geocentrism, they shut it down.  Menzingen's party line is Heliocentrism. We know this because Fr. Riccomini once advised the Phoenix faithful couldn't watch the movie "The Principle" at the priory because it was much too controversial.

Before endorsing John Salza, as an SSPX 3rd party propagandist, Menzingen strongly encouraged him to stop promoting geocentrism from his website.  He complied.

I wondered what stance they had on this, if any. Too bad. You are sure it's from the top and it isn't individual priests imposing their preferences? Because I've heard there are SSPX priests who tend towards geocentrism, or at least its discussion. Are they told to keep it to themselves I wonder?

Fr Robinson stresses in his article that there is plenty of room for private opinions as long as they do not undermine supernatural truths, reason or science. You'd think geocentrism falls in this category.

I agree that not mentioning SSPX is part of rebranding. They've started omitting it even on church signs, haven't they? It's yet another way of blending in and losing the special character that they (used to) stand for.

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