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Offline Mr G

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Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
« on: January 29, 2018, 03:15:33 PM »
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    • FYI: From Fr. Robinson.

    What do you suppose this will lead to? :furtive:


    Dear friends,
        I am very happy to announce the release of my book The Realist Guide to Religion and Science. Please visit the official website for the book and spread the word!
    -- In the Hearts of Jesus and Mary,

    Fr. Paul A. Robinson

    Holy Cross Seminary

    http://www.holycrossseminary.com


    https://therealistguide.com/

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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 05:24:01 PM »
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    • I want to buy Father Robinson's magnum opus to simply understand how a person's soul is implicitly baptized?

    Father, an engineer/priest/theologian, is most qualified to explain the nuances of the SSPX's mystical belief systems.
    For example, That a Catholic baptism is universally inscribed in every person's heart. 
    (See the SSPX's "Open Letter to Confused Catholics", page 74).

    Father's discourse must go beyond the epistemological and metaphysical truths which are the basis of Aristotelian-Thomistic thought ?  For example, Aristotle's De Anima, explained that a Soul is created from three substances (Matter, Form and the Compound).  A little later, Our Lord demonstrated how Original Sin was removed from Souls by the Sacrament of Baptism, using H20 matter.

    Fast forward 2,000 years and most people are just too uneducated or dumbed-down to understand Karl Rahner's explanation of implicit, universal baptisms?  

    I mean, how are our souls implicitly cleaned ?  Does a little Angel come in to do the work?

    But not to worry tradcats.
    Now we have a reality based, "Theological Science-guy".

    An SSPX endorsed priest who can give us the technical details of how our Souls are implicitly cleansed of Original Sin.  




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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 07:10:51 PM »
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    • I love this kind of thing. Although I appreciate their efforts, I also kind of hate that Protestants seem more vigorous in defending the Bible and Christianity against pseudo-scientists than Catholics are. I don't care about SSPX vs Rome in this. If he is on-point I will happily support the effort and continue to pray that more Catholics get on board to peel away the false mask of "scientific" theories.
    The answers to these questions build an incredibly important natural base for the supernatural Faith in the minds of our children. 
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 08:52:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: wallflower on January 29, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
    I love this kind of thing. Although I appreciate their efforts, I also kind of hate that Protestants seem more vigorous in defending the Bible and Christianity against pseudo-scientists than Catholics are. I don't care about SSPX vs Rome in this. If he is on-point I will happily support the effort and continue to pray that more Catholics get on board to peel away the false mask of "scientific" theories.
    The answers to these questions build an incredibly important natural base for the supernatural Faith in the minds of our children.
    That was my reaction to the description too.  It sounds like it could be used for high school level.  
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 11:06:30 AM »
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    • I am absolutely not attacking a book I have not even read yet! This seems like a remarkable book and for that I applaud Fr. Robinson. However why can't the SSPX even mention that he entered a SSPX seminary? I guess it is obvious to most but it seems rather silly to omit this. 

    Again, I am not trying to nit-pick but found this point strange. 

    https://angeluspress.org/products/the-realist-guide-to-religion-and-science

    FR. PAUL ROBINSON, A NATIVE OF KENTUCKY, USA, RECEIVED A MASTERS IN ENGINEERING MATHEMATICS AND COMPUTER SCIENCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. AFTER TWO YEARS IN THE FIELD, HE ENTERED A ROMAN CATHOLIC SEMINARY TO DISCERN HIS VOCATION. SINCE HIS ORDINATION IN 2006, HE HAS BEEN TEACHING THOMISTIC PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY. 
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 11:14:35 AM »
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    • The book didn't mention 'sspx seminary' because the sspx leadership wants to get rid of the 'us' vs 'them' mentality.  Therefore a catholic seminary is a catholic seminary, whether it's sspx, fssp, novus ordo, etc.

    Surely this is another sign that step-by-step, +Fellay is conditioning the faithful for a "deal".  May God have mercy on his soul!
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 11:18:54 AM »
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    • A friend of mine said: 


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    Perhaps given the subject matter they are looking to reach a larger audience who otherwise might instantly dismiss the work if they saw the words "SSPX". I'm not instantly convinced they is anything wrong here and am trying to give benefit of the doubt.
    I may buy the book. 
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 11:22:23 AM »
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    • It's also possible that mention of the sspx is left out due to the desire to spread the book by the author, who probably feels that this label would be rejected by the FSSP and other 'new church' conservatives, since new-rome tells everyone that the sspx is in schism.

    Either way, I think one should be proud of the sspx and not hide behind generic statements in order to promote a book. 
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 12:11:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: obscurus on January 30, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
    I am absolutely not attacking a book I have not even read yet! This seems like a remarkable book and for that I applaud Fr. Robinson. However why can't the SSPX even mention that he entered a SSPX seminary? I guess it is obvious to most but it seems rather silly to omit this.

    Again, I am not trying to nit-pick but found this point strange.

    https://angeluspress.org/products/the-realist-guide-to-religion-and-science

    FR. PAUL ROBINSON, A NATIVE OF KENTUCKY, USA, RECEIVED A MASTERS IN ENGINEERING MATHEMATICS AND COMPUTER SCIENCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. AFTER TWO YEARS IN THE FIELD, HE ENTERED A ROMAN CATHOLIC SEMINARY TO DISCERN HIS VOCATION. SINCE HIS ORDINATION IN 2006, HE HAS BEEN TEACHING THOMISTIC PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY.


    It's another part of the SSPX's re-branding.  
    With prelature relations, they're giving-up +ABL's Society label and identifying as generic "Roman Catholics".

    On the surface, Father's book appears meritorious, but how could you ever trust a homegrown SSPX theologian?
    A man who's been carrying political water for Menzingen?  

    For example, when the Menzingen brotherhood doesn't want to believe in something non-mainstream like Geocentrism, they shut it down.  Menzingen's party line is Heliocentrism. We know this because Fr. Riccomini once advised the Phoenix faithful couldn't watch the movie "The Principle" at the priory because it was much too controversial.

    Before endorsing John Salza, as an SSPX 3rd party propagandist, Menzingen strongly encouraged him to stop promoting geocentrism from his website.  He complied.

    Without reading his book, we know Father Robinson lacks credibility as a Catholic professor for two reasons:

    1. By condoning Bp. Fellay's "Rahnerite" Baptism theology (4 baptisms).
    2. His twisted, assessment of +ABL's resistance history, to provide Menzingen cover for their newChurch prelature.
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 04:25:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on January 30, 2018, 12:11:20 PM
    For example, when the Menzingen brotherhood doesn't want to believe in something non-mainstream like Geocentrism, they shut it down.  Menzingen's party line is Heliocentrism. We know this because Fr. Riccomini once advised the Phoenix faithful couldn't watch the movie "The Principle" at the priory because it was much too controversial.

    Before endorsing John Salza, as an SSPX 3rd party propagandist, Menzingen strongly encouraged him to stop promoting geocentrism from his website.  He complied.

    I wondered what stance they had on this, if any. Too bad. You are sure it's from the top and it isn't individual priests imposing their preferences? Because I've heard there are SSPX priests who tend towards geocentrism, or at least its discussion. Are they told to keep it to themselves I wonder?

    Fr Robinson stresses in his article that there is plenty of room for private opinions as long as they do not undermine supernatural truths, reason or science. You'd think geocentrism falls in this category.

    I agree that not mentioning SSPX is part of rebranding. They've started omitting it even on church signs, haven't they? It's yet another way of blending in and losing the special character that they (used to) stand for.

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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 06:33:43 PM »
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    • Fr. Robinson has lost his faith.  He is now a company man. This is too sad a distracting a thing - so who cares what he has to say at this point about anything else.  
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #11 on: January 31, 2018, 08:17:12 AM »
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    • For those who want to meet Fr. Robinson, come to St. Mary's on Feb. 18

    http://www.kschristianathleticassociation.org/public/genie/1116/school/15/date/2018-02-18/view/week/

    7:00pm - 8:00pmParish ConferencesMcCabe Theater location
    "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science" ~ Talk by Fr. Paul Robinson~ Father will be discussing his book and how it will address such questi...
    I sure he would love to answer all your questions ;)
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #12 on: January 31, 2018, 09:01:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: obscurus on January 30, 2018, 11:06:30 AM
    FR. PAUL ROBINSON, ....RECEIVED A MASTERS IN ENGINEERING MATHEMATICS AND COMPUTER SCIENCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE. .....TWO YEARS IN THE FIELD
    What does this degree have to do with science? Two years in the field unemployed, teaching math in a public school, fixing computers? The field is where all the theories you've learned meet reality.

    "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a King".
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #13 on: January 31, 2018, 09:28:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on January 31, 2018, 08:17:12 AM
    For those who want to meet Fr. Robinson, come to St. Mary's on Feb. 18

    http://www.kschristianathleticassociation.org/public/genie/1116/school/15/date/2018-02-18/view/week/

    7:00pm - 8:00pmParish ConferencesMcCabe Theater location
    "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science" ~ Talk by Fr. Paul Robinson~ Father will be discussing his book and how it will address such questi...
    I sure he would love to answer all your questions ;)

    I hope someone will ask his permission to be interviewed about those two glaring issues (4, baptisms and Heliocentrism) and record his responses on their smartphone.  Odds are he will decline to go on record.
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    Re: Fr Robinson's new book "The Realist Guide to Religion and Science"
    « Reply #14 on: February 19, 2018, 09:45:31 PM »
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    • Not only does it not say “”SSPX Seminary”, it doesn’t even say “Father” on the cover!

    Definitely trying to be intentionally vague to sell more books....

    What happened to the day when the SSPX proclaimed the truth loud and proud and wore their “Fr.” And “SSPX” as a badge of honor regardless if people purchased a particular book.

    So sad!
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