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Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2019, 02:59:19 AM »
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  • Oh really!?  i didn't now that.  He's now with Our Lady of something or other, you say.  I get lost sometimes in a sea of CI acronyms.  Can't keep them straight.  Would you describe Fr. R. as just another, in a growing number of rogue traditional priests? When I read someone like xavier sem declaring that Fr. R. is an excellent priest, my immediate response is "Uh-oh!"
    OLOS = Our Lady of Sorrows.  Fr. R also has a talk on this on YouTube.  I think several talks, actually.
    Interesting thought about rogue priests.  It might be unfair to call him "rogue."  And he is not "independent" in the sense that we trads mean that (outside of a diocesan structure and not affiliated with an apostolate recognized by Rome).  Temperamentally, I think "independence" is probably a state that suits Fr. R well, in that, while he is connected with Auxilium Angelorum as well as OLOS, as an exorcist he's called upon in many locations and typically travels for those requests.  For that matter, I'm acquainted with a local exorcist in the N.O., whom I have seen a couple of times myself, and he also travels all over the place -- for conferences, to train others, and to perform exorcisms. 
    However, Fr R does believe in the traditional lines of authority, so I would take it to the bank that has permission from the bishop of wherever area he works in most of the time, to operate as an exorcist.  And since various parishes solicit him for missions, that would mean he would have to be recognized by the bishop operating in that region. 
    Fr. R is well known among trad apostolates, including non-FSSP'ers.  I know that my trad priest knows who he is, even if he has not ever met him before.

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #31 on: July 15, 2019, 08:40:38 AM »
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  • Remember that we are in the midst of what Our Lady called "diabolical disorientation." In one of his talks on exorcism, Father Ripperger said the demon challenged what authority the exorcist (Father Ripperger) was under. Father replied that he is under the local Bishop (of course, Novus Ordo).
    It's clear that exorcists must be under the AUTHORITY of the local bishop and part of the hierarchial Church founded by Jesus Christ. Only simple "thinkers" who fail to understand the importance of spiritual authority would criticize this good priest who is doing the best he can to fight for the Church, to fight against the enemy, to assist those who are possessed.
    It appears that the demon recognizes the authority of the local bishop. 


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #32 on: July 15, 2019, 09:56:53 AM »
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  • I tried to contact Fr Ripperger for spiritual help and evaluation for a relative that lives in Denver ( I do not live there). My relation is seriously depressed and was abused as a child which can be an entryway for the demonic, although I have no way of knowing any of that pertaining to this person.  I  thought it was Providential that Father wound up in the same city as my relative. I called and got a fellow who apparently does clearance and intake , which I completely understand, as there must be hundreds of people, serious or not , trying to reach Father Ripperger for help. The man on the phone had me do as series of prayers for a month or more ( this was a few years ago so I don't remember exactly. This man was NOT a priest.) I hope I'm not sounding too flip, but this "front man" kind of gave me the creeps, he certainly was into the drama of the whole exorcist thing. He had a "Max Von Sidow" ominous type of presentation, as if he were more than just someone fielding cases for Father. Eventually  we had a bit of a verbal altercation over the phone, after I did all of the things he instructed. My impression was that this guy thought he had "great spiritual insight' into me and my relative, but he didn't like my attitude? I was very serious about the matter! Needless to say, I never got to talk to Father Ripperger. he may not even know anything about this.
    Another funny sidenote was that I had a priest that I know who was formerly associated with Fr Ripperger text me out of the blue after this bad scene with "Max". He never asked me anything directly, just seemed to be feeling me out. I never heard from him again. The whole episode left me feeling very violated and marginalized.
    My conclusion? I don't blame Fr Ripperger directly although he should have an idea what his associates are actually saying to people seeking his help, so he bears some responsibility.
    In conclusion, that was really my very LAST time dealing with anything or anyone related to the Consilliar church. I have been burned so many times before, and this certainly was the icing on the cake. Unfortunately my relative is still in a very dark place and I pray for his life ( and soul) daily.

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #33 on: July 15, 2019, 01:32:37 PM »
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  • Josefa,

    I'm very sorry for your experience and the unfortunate, demeaning position you were put it by a layperson who perhaps was assuming authority he had no right to assume. I can't speak to the purpose or authenticity of that person "speaking for Fr. R."  I will only share this:

    In his defense, he does need to screen requests (and he has indirectly alluded to this in his talks) because a layperson can innocently assume a demonic influence over someone or over himself, but be quite mistaken.  (Probably that's the reason for directing particular prayers as a first step.) 

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #34 on: July 15, 2019, 04:52:09 PM »
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  • As I said above, I understand completely the need for "triage" of inquiries. The person doing it, however was not appropriate and seemed to be taking on a lot of unwarranted responsibility and was also taking himself a bit too seriously as an adjunct to a "potential exorcism". This guy was NOT a priest nor was his personal evaluation of the situation even close. I felt like I was in a bad movie.
    Fr Ripperger needs to train better staff.


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #35 on: July 15, 2019, 05:02:28 PM »
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  • What's with all this Fr. Ripperger stuff??

    He is an indult priest, no??

    Why does anyone here take an indult priest seriously??
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #36 on: July 15, 2019, 07:48:27 PM »
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  • What's with all this Fr. Ripperger stuff??

    He is an indult priest, no??

    Why does anyone here take an indult priest seriously??
    He was formerly FSSP and then founded a new fraternal order of exorcists who live a semi-cloistered contemplative life.
    Just because a priest may disagree with you on the facets of supplied jurisdiction or the state of necessity, or whether or not one should obey a local ordinary doesn't make him a bad priest. He is bringing many souls to the traditional faith through his conferences.
    So instead of tearing down priests who are actually preaching the faith and offering the traditional sacraments according to their conscience let's pray for the renewal of the Church and the conversion of the bad clergy (and he is not one of them IMO).

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #37 on: July 15, 2019, 08:03:38 PM »
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  • He was formerly FSSP and then founded a new fraternal order of exorcists who live a semi-cloistered contemplative life.
    Just because a priest may disagree with you on the facets of supplied jurisdiction or the state of necessity, or whether or not one should obey a local ordinary doesn't make him a bad priest. He is bringing many souls to the traditional faith through his conferences.
    So instead of tearing down priests who are actually preaching the faith and offering the traditional sacraments according to their conscience let's pray for the renewal of the Church and the conversion of the bad clergy (and he is not one of them IMO).

    Two things:

    1) It’s not even clear to me that he is a priest at all.

    2) The Church does not need renewal.  It needs restoration.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #38 on: July 15, 2019, 08:14:25 PM »
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  • Two things:

    1) It’s not even clear to me that he is a priest at all.

    2) The Church does not need renewal.  It needs restoration.
    Just curious, are you Sede?

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #39 on: July 15, 2019, 08:38:11 PM »
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  • Clarification:
     When I was seeking Fr Ripperger's assistance a few years back, I was not totally invested in the resistance. I am now. We only go to Holy Mass with resistance or valid independent priests. I only piped in about Fr Ripperger because of my past experience, thinking it might be of note.

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #40 on: July 15, 2019, 08:40:51 PM »
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  • Just curious, are you Sede?
    Yes, I am quite well-known to be sede.

    Ultra-dogmatic.

    The Dimond Brothers are flaming liberals compared to me.

    Long live Pope Michael!

    Were you born yesterday?
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #41 on: July 16, 2019, 06:35:25 AM »
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  • Yes, I am quite well-known to be sede.

    Ultra-dogmatic.

    The Dimond Brothers are flaming liberals compared to me.

    Long live Pope Michael!

    Were you born yesterday?
    It's incredibly prideful to assume a new user must have heard of the legendary SeanJohnson and is an ignorant fool if he doesn't know all that famed man's wise opinions.

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #42 on: July 16, 2019, 12:48:45 PM »
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  • I tried to contact Fr Ripperger for spiritual help and evaluation for a relative that lives in Denver ( I do not live there). My relation is seriously depressed and was abused as a child which can be an entryway for the demonic, although I have no way of knowing any of that pertaining to this person.  I  thought it was Providential that Father wound up in the same city as my relative. I called and got a fellow who apparently does clearance and intake , which I completely understand, as there must be hundreds of people, serious or not , trying to reach Father Ripperger for help. The man on the phone had me do as series of prayers for a month or more ( this was a few years ago so I don't remember exactly. This man was NOT a priest.) I hope I'm not sounding too flip, but this "front man" kind of gave me the creeps, he certainly was into the drama of the whole exorcist thing. He had a "Max Von Sidow" ominous type of presentation, as if he were more than just someone fielding cases for Father. Eventually  we had a bit of a verbal altercation over the phone, after I did all of the things he instructed. My impression was that this guy thought he had "great spiritual insight' into me and my relative, but he didn't like my attitude? I was very serious about the matter! Needless to say, I never got to talk to Father Ripperger. he may not even know anything about this.
    Another funny sidenote was that I had a priest that I know who was formerly associated with Fr Ripperger text me out of the blue after this bad scene with "Max". He never asked me anything directly, just seemed to be feeling me out. I never heard from him again. The whole episode left me feeling very violated and marginalized.
    My conclusion? I don't blame Fr Ripperger directly although he should have an idea what his associates are actually saying to people seeking his help, so he bears some responsibility.
    In conclusion, that was really my very LAST time dealing with anything or anyone related to the Consilliar church. I have been burned so many times before, and this certainly was the icing on the cake. Unfortunately my relative is still in a very dark place and I pray for his life ( and soul) daily.
    I don't care for him.    He seemed off to me somehow.
    Someone sent me a CD of his talks a few years ago and, aside from the fact that he talks so fast and is often hard to decipher, said some things that I found strange. I don't recall exactly what it was he said, but I do remember wondering what all the fuss was about him.

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #43 on: July 16, 2019, 12:57:50 PM »
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  • I don't care for him.    He seemed off to me somehow.
    Someone sent me a CD of his talks a few years ago and, aside from the fact that he talks so fast and is often hard to decipher, said some things that I found strange. I don't recall exactly what it was he said, but I do remember wondering what all the fuss was about him.
    I listened to his sermons posted on Youtube and at first thought highly of him and I did learn a few things, but before too long I stopped listening for the exact same reasons you posted.
    For a small gain they travel far; for eternal life many will scarcely lift a foot from the ground. - Thomas A Kempis

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #44 on: July 16, 2019, 01:09:37 PM »
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  • As I said above, I understand completely the need for "triage" of inquiries. The person doing it, however was not appropriate and seemed to be taking on a lot of unwarranted responsibility and was also taking himself a bit too seriously as an adjunct to a "potential exorcism". This guy was NOT a priest nor was his personal evaluation of the situation even close. I felt like I was in a bad movie.
    Fr Ripperger needs to train better staff.
    I didn't deny that, Josefa.  I wasn't arguing with you about the competency of his staff.  I even made reference to perhaps a staff member assuming authority inappropriately.  I merely know that Fr. R gets far more requests that he can directly screen himself.  And I also know that sometimes he does visit possible candidates for exorcism when there is no way to sufficiently prescreen them, and he does so regardless of whether those are true cases of demonic Obsession or demonic Possession, or whether there is no acute level of demonic influence that can be addressed by an exorcism -- rather that the candidate should be exorcising his sins in the Sacrament of Confession.

    General comment, not to Josefa more than others: The most important take-away, i.m.o., of all of Fr. R's talks is that --and this is especially true as the approach of End Times accelerates -- the way to keep the demons far from our souls is to stay out of mortal sin.  Commit a mortal sin, and invite the demons in.

     

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