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Offline MMagdala

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Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2019, 11:06:10 AM »
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  • Ascetik,
    Thank you for your reply #58.  I know that Fr. Wolfe's statements about this are contained in one of the 16 sermons titled Our Lady of Revelation.  It's in 16 parts, although his style is to do a ton of recapping, as a teaching tool.  I will investigate later this week in which of those 16 his statement about the different way the sins of the damned will be revealed versus the sins of the saved (that is, at the General Judgment) is contained.


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #61 on: July 22, 2019, 12:14:46 PM »
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  • It appears that the demon recognizes the authority of the local bishop.

    The really tough question would be: Would the demon recognize the authority of Cardinal Blase Cupich who promotes adultery by giving communion to public adulterers?

    If that is so the complete hierarchy has to be recognized no matter what they believe in. In the end the church becomes a heretical brothel.

    Following any NO priest is very dangerous in this day and age.


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #62 on: July 24, 2019, 10:42:27 AM »
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  •  In the end the church becomes a heretical brothel.


    Jesus said: "Thou are Peter and upon this rock I found my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."
    Like you, we are all suffering to see our holy mother Church being dragged through the mud by heretics. But regardless of how horrific the situation is from our puny human perspective, God is in control. He will not be mocked. His time is not our time. (A day is as a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is as a day.) We can offer up our suffering to Him as we pray for the restoration of the Church, and pray for the salvation of souls who are misled by heretics.
    We have Jesus's word that the gates of hell will not PREVAIL against the Church He founded.
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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #63 on: July 24, 2019, 11:56:39 AM »
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  • We have Jesus's word that the gates of hell will not PREVAIL against the Church He founded.

    Yes, but there will be a huge falling off (2 Thess. 2), the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place (Mt 24), the continual sacrifice shall be taken away (Mt 24,15 => Dan 12), and the rest of the holy people will be scattered (Dan 12). In the last days before the return of Christ there will be a time of tribulation as never has been before (Dan 12).

    St. John Chrysostom in the Opus imperfectum on Matthew in Homily XLIX on Mt 24 says that the destruction of the Church will parallel the destruction of Jerusalem A.D. 70. The hosts of Titus in A.D. 70 are hosts of heretics at that time. Most Jєωs were killed in A.D. 70, and the rest scattered all over the world. Most Catholics will be spiritually killed at that time, and the rest scattered all over the world.

    Looks to me like what we see today.


    Yes, the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. But only a small number of believers will be left: "And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened." (Mt 24,22)
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #64 on: July 24, 2019, 04:03:58 PM »
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  • Yes, but there will be a huge falling off (2 Thess. 2), the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place (Mt 24), the continual sacrifice shall be taken away (Mt 24,15 => Dan 12), and the rest of the holy people will be scattered (Dan 12). In the last days before the return of Christ there will be a time of tribulation as never has been before (Dan 12).

    St. John Chrysostom in the Opus imperfectum on Matthew in Homily XLIX on Mt 24 says that the destruction of the Church will parallel the destruction of Jerusalem A.D. 70. The hosts of Titus in A.D. 70 are hosts of heretics at that time. Most Jєωs were killed in A.D. 70, and the rest scattered all over the world. Most Catholics will be spiritually killed at that time, and the rest scattered all over the world.

    Looks to me like what we see today.


    Yes, the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. But only a small number of believers will be left: "And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened." (Mt 24,22)

    I agree with all of your points. I disagree with King Wenceslas who said:
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    In the end the church becomes a heretical brothel.
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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #65 on: July 24, 2019, 05:42:15 PM »
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  • The really tough question would be: Would the demon recognize the authority of Cardinal Blase Cupich who promotes adultery by giving communion to public adulterers?

    If that is so the complete hierarchy has to be recognized no matter what they believe in. In the end the church becomes a heretical brothel.

    Following any NO priest is very dangerous in this day and age.

    Isn't it possible to differentiate between the Church, and the bad men who are comprise the hierarchy? (Though not all clergy in the conciliar church are bad).

    Archbishop Lefebvre believed that the Church is occupied by a Modernist sect. No one has to accept his word as the final word on the issue, but what he suggests, to me, seems to be that it's not the "Church" that's the problem, but rather the Modernists who are using the Church to further their agenda.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #66 on: July 24, 2019, 07:54:05 PM »
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  • I agree with all of your points. I disagree with King Wenceslas who said:
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    In the end the church becomes a heretical brothel.

    Right, it's not the Church, it's just most members falling off.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #67 on: July 26, 2019, 09:10:15 PM »
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  • Fr. Ripperger then served up a some ice cold Full Communion Kool Aid, saying:  

    This negative attitude towards the Magisterium is one of the reasons why the Magisterium has been so slow to give us anything because people have had such a negative attitude, they’re just like, well, we have to be careful with what we’re giving these people because you know they’re gonna end up biting the hand that feeds them.

    I’m not buying this for a second. There is only one reason why the so-called “Magisterium” of today (i.e., the hierarchy of today) does not “give us anything” authentically Catholic and genuinely nourishing for the soul, and that is because they are largely hirelings of the conciliar church-of-man who have not the true faith. Period.

    To hear Fr. Ripperger speak one would imagine that some substantial number of the bishops of today actually have a genuine desire to lead the flock in the way of tradition, but it is the attitude of the faithful that is preventing it. The idea is absurd.

    Wow, he's really gone off the rails.


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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #68 on: July 27, 2019, 12:04:07 PM »
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  • https://akacatholic.com/fr-ripperger-defender-of-tradition-or-company-man/

    We have to stop detracting against the Magisterium. Okay, why? Because in the end it destroys people’s ability to the virtue of piety. How you can expect people to want to submit themselves to Christ’s legitimate authority, handed on through the Magisterium, if you’re constantly running down the bishops and the priests and the Pope and things of that sort.
    If Father Ripperger actually said that I would be shocked, however I followed the link given and no original source is given, nor can I find the purported statement anywhere else.
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    Re: Fr. Ripperger: Defender of tradition or company man?
    « Reply #69 on: July 27, 2019, 12:18:06 PM »
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  • I found it here:

    at 7:53
    sounds quite different IN CONTEXT
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