Author Topic: Fr. Peter Tran Van Khoat (Read 21730 times)

Vladimir · « **on:** October 11, 2011, 03:04:24 PM »

Fr. Peter Tran Van Khoat.

Thoughts on him?

He obviously grew up in Vietnam prior to the war, possibly before Vatican II.

There seems to be absolutely no information about him on the web. Does he reside in the U.S.?

Physical address or way of communicating?

Some websites put "Peter" in quotation. It is likely just the adoption of the Vietnamese custom to go by one's baptismal name.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2011, 05:43:14 PM »

He follows the "pope in exile"... whoever that is. Nice to have "arcane knowledge" like that, isn't it?

He allegedly met with "Gregory XVII" before his death and somehow got him to say, (in a roundabout completely unclear fashion) that he was the pope (so he claims.)

Anyway, he's changed his story multiple times, as I understand it, and is among the kooks out there, like David "The Hobgoblin" Hobson.

I'd steer clear of him, personally.

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2011, 05:56:20 PM »

This 'p*pe in exile' could be that P*pe Michael person, or Pulvermacher, or who knows what other nutcase out there.

Holy Virgin, comfort your children in this confusing and tumultuous time.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

drivocek · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2013, 08:20:46 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

He follows the "pope in exile"... whoever that is. Nice to have "arcane knowledge" like that, isn't it?

He allegedly met with "Gregory XVII" before his death and somehow got him to say, (in a roundabout completely unclear fashion) that he was the pope (so he claims.)

Anyway, he's changed his story multiple times, as I understand it, and is among the kooks out there, like David "The Hobgoblin" Hobson.

I'd steer clear of him, personally.

Agree! Stay away from him. I have spoken by phone with the man behind the site
http://www.thepopeinred.com/

a Mr. Abner (?) who is a solid sedevacantist but always seemed to be in a hurry whenever we tried to talk and cut me off. He did assert that the only Mass for today was with Fr. Khoat and condemned SSPX.

Quantum Potes, Tantum Aude.

drivocek · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2013, 08:22:22 PM »

Apologies for posting again so quickly. . . as to the where, it is in Texas I believe the man said.

Editha · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2013, 09:53:14 PM »

St. Pius X teaches in case of vacancy of the Holy See, the duty of the Church, "the holiest and most serious of all duties", is to extinguish the vacancy in a "provident and prudent way".

There was a group of sedevacantists from all over the world, who attempted this in Assisi appoximately 15 years ago. Does anybody have info on this? Were these Sirianists?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2013, 10:16:50 PM »

It's a waste of time. I've looked into all of this, and it's all a big scam. Save your headaches for fighting in the resistance. There is absolutely no public evidence for this scam. Father Bolduc looked into this very thing years ago, and came up with nothing, and he had excellent research skills. I even wasted a good amount of time looking into all of this, even contacting archivists from the National Archives, and having two different people looking through loads of docuмentation, for -anything- relating to concrete evidence of this. There was absolutely nothing. One dishonest person that follows Fr. Von Tran looked into this and claims he has "loads of evidence" that he would release "at the end of the quarter" of a few years ago. STILL. NOTHING. I even had a former SSPX seminarian that has a family now that used to be on this forum go, and took his whole family with him when he went. He even went out to Baltimore to the State Department archives, and he found a big, fat NOTHING. Please, don't waste your time on this.

Thursday · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2013, 10:17:59 PM »

Fr. Khoat most certainly met with Cardinal Siri in 1988 and he came back and confirmed what many people had suspected, that Siri was the lawful successor to St. Peter. As far as I know Fr. Khoat has never endorsed the pope in red website and, as you say there is little or no information on him and what is there is from questionable sources so one may want to reserve judgement until he can speak for himself.

Editha · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2013, 10:49:00 PM »

It's Hobson, not Abner. He runs that site.

Editha · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2013, 11:14:24 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Fr. Bolduc looked into this very thing years ago

He was in Texas for some time at a Saint Judes Shrine Church. Why did he leave?

Editha · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2013, 02:34:50 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Father Bolduc

On Monday Mary 24, 1976 at the Shrine of Saint Jude's in Texas, Lefebvre himself and the board of directors of the Traditional Catholics of Greater Houston held a very grave meeting to discuss some important evidence about an individual.

Thursday · « **Reply #11 on:** January 06, 2013, 07:56:37 AM »

Quote from: Editha

Quote from: parentsfortruth
Father Bolduc

On Monday Mary 24, 1976 at the Shrine of Saint Jude's in Texas, Lefebvre himself and the board of directors of the Traditional Catholics of Greater Houston held a very grave meeting to discuss some important evidence about an individual.

Well it could have been Paul VI, or anyone, any other details to go on?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #12 on:** January 06, 2013, 08:39:42 AM »

Quote from: Thursday

Quote from: Editha
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Father Bolduc

On Monday Mary 24, 1976 at the Shrine of Saint Jude's in Texas, Lefebvre himself and the board of directors of the Traditional Catholics of Greater Houston held a very grave meeting to discuss some important evidence about an individual.

Well it could have been Paul VI, or anyone, any other details to go on?

Yes, and SSPX if you look in the archives of The Angelus, has a picture of Fr. Von Tran right in there with Father Bolduc and Archbishop Lefevbre. I'll see if I can dig it up.

September 1979 Angelus:

http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=269

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2013, 10:53:09 AM »

Quote from: Editha

Certainly much was going on in 1976 regarding the world media talking about Montini and Lefebvre.

On this part of Lefebvre's American trip I was mentioning a specific May 24, 1976 meeting at the Shrine of Saint Jude's.

A major concern, backed up with tangible evidence, pertaining to Buldog Bolduc was presented to Lefebvre by the Traditional Catholics of Greater Houston. End result: Bolduc was gone.

I think you have the date wrong. The only time he met with Fr. Khoat that I'm aware of, was in 1979, not 1976.

Sigismund · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2013, 01:54:02 PM »

Quote from: Stephen Francis

This 'p*pe in exile' could be that P*pe Michael person, or Pulvermacher, or who knows what other nutcase out there.

Holy Virgin, comfort your children in this confusing and tumultuous time.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Fr. Lucien Pulvermacher is dead now, so he can't be the pope.

Not that there was ever any possibility that he was.