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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: cosmas on January 08, 2022, 08:56:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/OYuqVdzr6Ew (https://youtu.be/OYuqVdzr6Ew)
Pope Francis would be proud !
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Justifying his own reception of the shot, it seems.
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Soul crushing . I really can’t take this anymore.
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That speech he gave could have been written by Satan. Everything about it was blatantly wrong.
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[color=var(--yt-spec-text-primary)]Jordan (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3osMfjrOTjN7QMflAyiN1w)’s response in comments:
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[color=var(--yt-spec-text-primary)]“As a pharmaceutical researcher who has made lots of money working for these big drug companies I can assure you, that it is all diabolical. I have repented strongly for my participation in the lies that changed data to get dangerous drugs approved and on the market. Anyone here who has worked in pharmaceuticals understands how the system is set up to protect drug companies, hide adverse events, and approve ineffective and/or dangerous drugs.
I am going to continue to tell people the dangers of trusting the pharmaceutical company, even if people don’t want to listen.
These investigational injections, are not vaccines, they are brand new injections created as gene therapy, that’s openly available information. They absolutely cause widespread inflammation and weaken immune systems.
They are changing definitions to create fear and continue to lie. My own brother died 14 days post second dose, he was considered an unvaccinated covid death. These are the “unvaccinated” that are dying. People recently injected. “[/font][/size][/color]
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[color=var(--yt-spec-text-primary)]Jordan (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3osMfjrOTjN7QMflAyiN1w)’s response in comments:
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[color=var(--yt-spec-text-primary)]“As a pharmaceutical researcher who has made lots of money working for these big drug companies I can assure you, that it is all diabolical. I have repented strongly for my participation in the lies that changed data to get dangerous drugs approved and on the market. Anyone here who has worked in pharmaceuticals understands how the system is set up to protect drug companies, hide adverse events, and approve ineffective and/or dangerous drugs.
I am going to continue to tell people the dangers of trusting the pharmaceutical company, even if people don’t want to listen.
These investigational injections, are not vaccines, they are brand new injections created as gene therapy, that’s openly available information. They absolutely cause widespread inflammation and weaken immune systems.
They are changing definitions to create fear and continue to lie. My own brother died 14 days post second dose, he was considered an unvaccinated covid death. These are the “unvaccinated” that are dying. People recently injected. “[/font][/size][/color]
I wonder which one his brother took? :-(
Oh statistics. They sure are being fudged a lot these days.
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I have never heard so much evil sophistry coming out of the mouth of one man in all of my life. Father Pagliarani is about as mealy mouthed as his predecessor. The Superior General offers no real advice or guidance at all to the SSPX faithful, unless it is, in some way, to exercise “prudence” in taking or not taking the vaccine. The Society “steps aside” from the vaccine issue, because it is in their interests not to offend anyone. Pagliarani’s words are as useless as teats on a boar. He reminds me of RINO Republicans who are very adept at taking both sides of any political issue. He is himself a politician who dares not bite the hands that feed him and his organization. What a disgusting display of totally disconnected anecdotes. The SSPX is totally obedient to its Jєωιѕн overlords.
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Justifying his own reception of the shot, it seems.
Possibly, but not certainly.
This website contains all the vax requirements for those taking international flights to the United States:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/proof-of-vaccination.html
According to the website, the following classes of people are exempt from the vaccination requirement:
-U.S. citizen,
-U.S. national,
-Lawful permanent resident,
-Traveling to the United States on an immigrant visa (i.e., Green Card holders).
If Fr. Pagliarani (or other SSPX bishops, priests, or seminarians) qualify as one of these 4 categories, they need not be assumed to have been vaccinated.
I know many SSPX priests do in fact have green cards (e.g., foreign seminary professors like Fr. Iscara, etc.).
PS: The website does list some other exceptions which seem unlikely to be applicable to SSPX clergy/seminarians (e.g., flight crew members, foreigh parolees, etc.).
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Isn't it safe to say that, if the SSPX hierarchy is part of a semi-regularized apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church, then Archbishop Vigano is definitely a member, also, of that same hierarchy? That being the case, we can assume, both by title and position, that he functions at a higher level of that Catholic hierarchy than does Father. Yet Fr. Pagliarani, unlike ++Vigano, steps aside from the vaccine debate. Abp. Vigano does not. The latter steps into it vigorously. Is there not a disconnect here?
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Isn't it safe to say that, if the SSPX hierarchy is part of a semi-regularized apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church, then Archbishop Vigano is definitely a member, also, of that same hierarchy? That being the case, we can assume, both by title and position, that he functions at a higher level of that Catholic hierarchy than does Father. Yet Fr. Pagliarani, unlike ++Vigano, steps aside from the vaccine debate. Abp. Vigano does not. The latter steps into it vigorously. Is there not a disconnect here?
The SSPX and +Vigano are two ships heading in opposite directions, and the former dare no endorse the latter, for fear of injuring a future chance at canonical rgularization.
Complete cowardice.
The SSPX will be in a holding pattern (i.e., paralyzed by the noose of legality it eagerly placed around its own neck) until the next crazy pope is elected, to see if he's willing to play ball (and the one after him, and the one after him, and so on).
Eventually, they will fatigue, like +Fellay did, and sign anything that will give them the seal of approval.
But by then, the salt will be so bland, it won't be much good for anything.
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Attn: SSPX Leadership: Here is a real manly Priest. This is how you and the Vatican should be talking like.
https://rumble.com/vsbrwp-the-real-covid-crisis-church-silent-while-unvaxed-persecuted.html
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Another thing, people lost their homes and jobs while the wealthy “Catholics” blew money to go to fancy meal where the the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr jab is being promoted. People around the world are protesting the jab while the wealthy travel, eat and drink. Did anyone there stand up against global genocide?? Did any real Catholic stand up for the faith?
Is everyone comfortable with apostasy in Rome? Was there any talk about dealing with child molestors?? Why aren’t they backing up their own priests who have been fighting mandated jabs long before covid? To allow global satanists to inject children and adults with poison, is not Catholic. Catholic hierarchy should be wanting to seek real justice to close these labs and hold these global satanists accountable for their crimes against humanity. History does repeat itself.
We should be striving for perfection instead of settling for evil. No one should seek canonical regularization with sodomites of the devil.
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The FSSPX weald the word "prudence" like a weapon of mass destruction.
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The FSSPX weald the word "prudence" like a weapon of mass destruction.
Exactly!
Prudence = researching the facts and not taking a experimental jab.
Prudence = not trusting the govt, who repeatedly lies to you.
Prudence = not "negotiating" with new-rome, who wants to destroy you and everything you stand for.
:facepalm: The new-sspx leadership wouldn't know prudence if it slapped them in the mouth. They are wolves in sheep's clothing...
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This is how ... the Vatican should be talking like.
:laugh1: Bergoglio just yesteday reiterated that it's a "moral obligation" to get the jab, and he called opposition to the jab "baseless". That proves he's an NWO operative and stooge, using the same term (its Italian equivalent of course) that they used about the election fraud.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/pope-covid-vaccines-health-care-moral-obligation/3487615/
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How can anyone trust a pope who worships naked fertility statues and honors nuns and priests who promote mortal sin.
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By Courtney Mares (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/author/421/courtney-mares)
Rome Newsroom, Jan 11, 2022 / 05:00 am
An Italian bishop has prohibited unvaccinated priests and lay people from distributing Communion as Italy tightens its COVID-19 restrictions.
Bishop Giacomo Cirulli of the southern Italian diocese of Teano-Calvi and Alife-Caiazzo issued a letter (https://www.clarusonline.it/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Decreto-per-le-Diocesi-1-2022-del-08_01_2022.pdf) on Jan. 8 with new rules to stem the spread of the coronavirus. (Lay people shouldn’t give out communion anyway)
“I prohibit the distribution of the Eucharist by priests, deacons, religious and lay people who are not vaccinated,” the bishop wrote.
“With regard to vaccines, let me recall what Pope Francis said: ‘Getting vaccinated … is an act of love. And helping to ensure that the majority of people get vaccinated is an act of love. Love for yourself, love for family and friends, love for all peoples,’” he said.
It seems like mostly sodomite clergy promotes the jab.
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If you are Catholic Shepherd, you protect your sheep.
History repeats itself , we end up with global satanists and satanic enablers for Catholic leadership.
This is was happens when people choose man (satan) over God
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Innocent children ..and they fail to protect them from perverts and a deadly vax. These priests should be “bashed”.
Catholic Church hierarchy should be leading the charge against the creators of the bio weapon and the jab.
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https://youtu.be/OYuqVdzr6Ew (https://youtu.be/OYuqVdzr6Ew)
Pope Francis would be proud !
It's 35 minutes and I do not have the stomach to listen to what I expect him to say, nothing worth listening to. Can anyone give a re-cap?
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It's 35 minutes and I do not have the stomach to listen to what I expect him to say, nothing worth listening to. Can anyone give a re-cap?
I second your plea for a brief recap. I played it for nearly 5 minutes, and the basic gist I got from those 5 minutes was "We should talk about "CÖVÌD ναccιnеs. It's controversial, and there are different opinions."
In any case, from another thread (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-superior-general-addresses-the-covid19-vaccine-question/), I got the impression the Cliffs Notes summary is, "go ahead & comply - get the jαb."
p.s. It looks like Ladislaus did a Cliffs Notes summary in that thread (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-superior-general-addresses-the-covid19-vaccine-question/); I am assuming it's the same talk.
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The FSSPX weald the word "prudence" like a weapon of mass destruction.
I think you mean 'wield,' not weald. But no matter. The SSPX used the word 'prudent' and its derivatives 'imprudent,' 'imprudently,' and 'imprudence' over and over again in dealing with Bp. Williamson some years ago. It is shop-worn SSPX-speak.
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I think you mean 'wield,' not weald. But no matter. The SSPX used the word 'prudent' and its derivatives 'imprudent,' 'imprudently,' and 'imprudence' over and over again in dealing with Bp. Williamson some years ago. It is shop-worn SSPX-speak.
"Prudence" is often abused as a means to justify moral laxity. They claim 1) that this is a medical issue only (without moral implications) ... which is absolutely false, and Fr. Pagliarani knows it (otherwise why did he answer the question during the panel?) and 2) that it's a matter of prudence (weighing whether your the benefits to your health and the need to keep your job outweigh the potential risk to your health).
In both cases, the false implication is that there's no moral aspect to this issue. And that has to be categorized as a flat-out lie. It's an excuse to "side-step" the issue so as to avoid any bad PR or poliical fallout.
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Hey Hollingsworth, what do your buddies over at Church Militant say about the jab? Are they speaking out against it? Or are they, too, being "prudent" indulters and following along...
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In both cases, the false implication is that there's no moral aspect to this issue. And that has to be categorized as a flat-out lie. It's an excuse to "side-step" the issue so as to avoid any bad PR or political fallout.
Dear SSPX Laity,
Forget your Covid jab health concerns and its morality, instead be happy and just respond to the mass along with the altar server and sing all the songs, that's more important. But most importantly support all our projects with generous contributions. Trust in the SSPX.
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Dear SSPX Laity,
Forget your Covid jab health concerns and its morality, instead be happy and just respond to the mass along with the altar server and sing all the songs, that's more important.
Its 1965 all over again, the clergy re-arranging chairs on the Titanic.
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Did Pagliarani, with all his carefully chosen words about vaccinations, make even the slightest mention of stem cells from fetuses being used in the manufacture of gene therapies? He may have, but I don't think he did.
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Fr. Pagliarani never mentioned the fact that they chopped up these aborted babies while alive to get to their liver or kidney's to use for the testing of these Death Shots. Nor did he bring up the fact that the 100's of babies they use for the testing . The D.N.A. from everyone of these babies goes into these immoral Death shots. Each of the recipients that receive these Shots inherit all of the problems these babies might have in their ancestry. This is a curse that "God is allowing " SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN THAT ARE TO COME TO ME ! This turning their backs on this responsibility does not bode well for the SSPX ! The SSPX is following course toward Hell !
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Attn: SSPX Leadership: Here is a real manly Priest. This is how you and the Vatican should be talking like.
https://rumble.com/vsbrwp-the-real-covid-crisis-church-silent-while-unvaxed-persecuted.html
A wonderful homily. Also available on the Remnant website.
Fr. Dolan tells it exactly like it is.
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Fr. Pagliarani never mentioned the fact that they chopped up these aborted babies while alive to get to their liver or kidney's to use for the testing of these Death Shots. Nor did he bring up the fact that the 100's of babies they use for the testing
No, of course! Father P. is too sophisticated and urbane. He would never stoop to employ crude phrases like "chopped up." After all, this is a very "complicated" matter. We must use "delicate" phraseology in dealing with the "vaccines." Actually, Father prefers to "step aside" from the issue altogether. And so, also, I'm afraid do a number CI members.
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Dear Fr. Pagliarani:
We will pray a Rosary tomorrow for you.
May God bless you and give you strength to protect your sheep. I thank the SSPX for teaching us about the true Catholic Faith and Mass. Amen.
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Exactly!
Prudence = researching the facts and not taking a experimental jab.
Prudence = not trusting the govt, who repeatedly lies to you.
Prudence = not "negotiating" with new-rome, who wants to destroy you and everything you stand for.
:facepalm: The new-sspx leadership wouldn't know prudence if it slapped them in the mouth. They are wolves in sheep's clothing...
My thoughts exactly!
Their actions and advice are the OPPOSITE of true prudence. They are about as foolish -- and imprudent -- as it comes.
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That speech he gave could have been written by Satan. Everything about it was blatantly wrong.
My thoughts exactly.
It doesn't bother Fr. Pagliarani at all that his public statements are NOT the least bit controversial, in the eyes of the NWO, Pope Francis, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, and other villains.
He is literally on the same page as satan on this whole covid and vax issue! No problems there, no, none at all.
God forbid I ever find myself in that position! I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
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One last thing --
When a person rejects the truth -- ignores it, distorts it, and chases after lies instead, it is the JUST JUDGMENT of God that such an one be given over to believe worse and worse lies, and to reap the consequences thereof.
Keeping in mind that NATURE NEVER FORGIVES.
St. Paul predicted this --
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It is truly unfortunate that the leadership has scattered, basically leaving the faithful (and those who might be influenced by their example) to sink or swim on their own.
Perhaps the SSPX should consider having a medical ethics board to help them sort out the moral implications. Even doctors such as Carrie Madej speak up:
https://noqreport.com/2022/01/12/dr-carrie-madej-issues-shocking-warning-about-monoclonal-antibodies/
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It is truly unfortunate that the leadership has scattered, basically leaving the faithful (and those who might be influenced by their example) to sink or swim on their own.
Perhaps the SSPX should consider having a medical ethics board to help them sort out the moral implications.
I doubt the SSPX would consider such a thing, although it would be good.
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It doesn't bother Fr. Pagliarani at all that his public statements are NOT the least bit controversial, in the eyes of the NWO, Pope Francis, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, and other villains.
I think you've nailed it! Fr. Pagliarini follows directly in the steps of his predecessor. Like much of the Roman Catholic hierarchy today, the SSPX is in lockstep with them. The Society is under the domination of the NWO- which from my perspective means they've been taken over by the Jews.
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I only praying for him. I don’t condone his sinful actions or lack of.