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Offline Christo Rege

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Re: Fr. Pablo Arzuago revisited
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2022, 08:21:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 23, 2022, 07:44:48 PM
    I don't know.  Given that I don't believe he was a rapist, I would take him at my local chapel if it meant being able to assist at daily Mass and receive the Sacraments regularly.  We're all sinners.  AND ... priests often forget this ... the priesthood was not given to them for their honor and glory, or because they deserved it.  It was given for the sake of the faithful and to serve the faithful.  I'm sure that Fr. Arzuaga learned some humility.  He was at St. Peregrine for a few years, and he could give sermons about Our Blessed Mother that often literally moved me to tears.  He fell into sin, yet there but for the grace of God go we as well.  So maybe that's why?  That the needs of the faithful in this crisis could be best served by returning him into service.  He evidently did spend a year at a monastery.  Again, if this was not rape, and I do not believe it was, I would gladly take him at my local chapel.
    If I was to hold some honesty, I would take Fr. Arzuaga at my local chapel, too- but only on the condition that he did not commit a crime of any kind and that he was sincerely repented. Imagine if he publicly declared to all the faithful that he did sin grievously and he asked all of us to forgive him? If he were to ever do this, Father, you then have my forgiveness. Now let’s move on towards the path that leads to Heaven! The loss of the damned priest Abbot Verdi-Garandieu is something I still cannot live with. 

    I remember when Ms. Kauffman came out with her side of the story, I took great care in praying for Fr. Arzuaga every day. Once the devil gets hold of the priests, he gets a hold of the faithful. It’s kind of like when the Freesmasons knew that they had to first get rid of women before they could destroy society. 
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    Re: Fr. Pablo Arzuago revisited
    « Reply #31 on: November 23, 2022, 11:39:40 PM »
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    • Ladislaus:  
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    Given that I don't believe he was a rapist, I would take him at my local chapel if it meant being able to assist at daily Mass and receive the Sacraments regularly


    Lad is not hard to please.  He sets the bar pretty low.  As long as the priest is not a rapist, he can deal with it.  And, I imagine, even if that priest's hierarchical handlers cover up his deeds, obfuscate and lie a bit on his behalf, and move him about here and there overseas to help cover his tracks, Lad can work with that too.
    Ladislaus, you help me understand why the SSPX has survived as long as it has. Should the rank and file membership off SSPX chapels exhibit the same kind of tolerance and long suffering you display, the Society will stay in business for a long time to come.:'(
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Fr. Pablo Arzuago revisited
    « Reply #32 on: November 24, 2022, 04:01:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on November 23, 2022, 11:39:40 PM
    Ladislaus: 

    Lad is not hard to please.  He sets the bar pretty low.  As long as the priest is not a rapist, he can deal with it.  And, I imagine, even if that priest's hierarchical handlers cover up his deeds, obfuscate and lie a bit on his behalf, and move him about here and there overseas to help cover his tracks, Lad can work with that too.
    Ladislaus, you help me understand why the SSPX has survived as long as it has. Should the rank and file membership off SSPX chapels exhibit the same kind of tolerance and long suffering you display, the Society will stay in business for a long time to come.:'(

    So succinct, so true, so sad.

    I wonder if it's the same low standard for his family's teachers, doctors, lawyers, therapists. Or is it just priests who have the low bar? As long as there's no blood, ¡no problema!  It's a corollary of the mental/moral disconnect of "children who are martial arts students may not roll around ground fighting with each other, but totally cool for those children to do the same rolling around with the adult instructor."


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    Offline Erica Kauffman

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    Re: Fr. Pablo Arzuago revisited
    « Reply #33 on: November 24, 2022, 09:31:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 23, 2022, 07:44:48 PM
    He was at St. Peregrine for a few years, and he could give sermons about Our Blessed Mother that often literally moved me to tears. 

    Please read what I am about to write with sincerity; nothing between the lines. Okay?

    I now fully understand why you don't believe me and I do not hold it against you. Arzuaga is very popular and disarming. He gives good counsel and is patient and kind. That is why my guard was completely down. I trusted him so completely. He knew everything about me, which made me totally vulnerable when his Mr. Hyde appeared. It is like getting hit with a stun-gun. You're paralyzed and simply cannot believe what is happening to you. Other people from St. Peregrine's have written to me about what they witnessed and experienced there. I am honestly glad you never experienced it. Most people don't see it. They entrust their children to him.

    That said, I have still put myself out there with nothing to gain and everything to lose. God bless you. 
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    Re: Fr. Pablo Arzuago revisited
    « Reply #34 on: November 24, 2022, 12:49:13 PM »
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    • Christo rege:  
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    Imagine if he (Arzuaga) publicly declared to all the faithful that he did sin grievously and he asked all of us to forgive him? If he were to ever do this, Father, you then have my forgiveness
    .This is a pipe dream.  Arzuaga has never, to anybody's knowledge "declared" anything "to all the faithful."  He has never confessed that he sinned "grievously."  Apparently however, CR can live with the fantasy that he might some day.  Meanwhile, CR, dream on.:facepalm:
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