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Fr Malchi Martin - vindicating St John Paul 2
« on: November 18, 2014, 11:42:07 PM »
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  • God bless all!





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    « Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 06:25:23 AM »
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  • Martin's story changes depending on the audience.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 06:26:46 AM »
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  • I don't know why everyone keeps calling Malachi "Father" Martin.  He was laicized.  Despite the fact that the Sacramental character of Holy Orders remained, he ceased to be "Father", could not function as such, and was not allowed the title "Father" any longer.


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    « Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 07:32:36 AM »
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  • You mean what he says it doesn't fit in with your conviction, so dismiss his credibility.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 09:59:03 AM »
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  • That was 1994, if you listen to the series of recordings till 1998 MM becomes more and more disillusioned with JP2 until in the last 18 months he is referring to him as a heretic and apostate.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 20, 2014, 10:32:26 AM »
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    You mean what he says it doesn't fit in with your conviction, so dismiss his credibility.


    Uhm, no.  I dismiss his credibility on entirely independent, standalone criteria.  And you assume his credibility because it fits with your convictions.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 20, 2014, 10:35:11 AM »
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    You mean what he says it doesn't fit in with your conviction, so dismiss his credibility.


    I know someone who followed Malachi Martin around on a lecture tour.

    He told me that Malachi addressed a group of SSPX supporters and referred to Archbishop Lefebvre as "the greatest theologian of the 20th century".  About two weeks later, addressing a group at Saint Benedict Center, Malachi referred to Father Feeney as "the greatest theologian of the 20th century".  Just one anecdotal incident.  People have created entire dossiers which demonstrate that Malachi can't be trusted.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 20, 2014, 10:36:18 AM »
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    That was 1994, if you listen to the series of recordings till 1998 MM becomes more and more disillusioned with JP2 until in the last 18 months he is referring to him as a heretic and apostate.


    Probably because more and more of his audience turned out to be Traditional Catholics.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 20, 2014, 04:23:38 PM »
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  • Thanks for posting the link, Andy.  

    I will check it out later.  

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    « Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 04:52:18 PM »
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    That was 1994, if you listen to the series of recordings till 1998 MM becomes more and more disillusioned with JP2 until in the last 18 months he is referring to him as a heretic and apostate.


    Probably because more and more of his audience turned out to be Traditional Catholics.


    Or, he found he just couldn't continue to ignore reality any longer and paint over the cracks.

    It's not like he would be the first person it happened to.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 05:37:03 PM »
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  • ggreg said

    "That was 1994, if you listen to the series of recordings till 1998 MM becomes more and more disillusioned with JP2 "



    That's true, but that doesn't detract from the soundness of the analysis in the interview posted and the postulation that St John Paul 2 was a heroic victim soul.

    St Father Montfort - Friends of the Cross.

    "Let him take up his cross," the one that is his. Let that man (or woman) so rare "far beyond the price of pearls," take up his cross joyfully, embrace it lovingly, and carry it courageously on his shoulders, his own cross, and not that of another - his own cross which I, in my wisdom, designed for him in every detail of number, measure and weight; his own cross which I have fashioned with my own hands and with great exactness as regards its four dimensions of length, breadth, thickness and depth; his own cross, which out of love for him I have carved from a piece of the one I bore to Calvary; his own cross, which is the greatest gift I can bestow upon my chosen ones on earth; his own cross, whose thickness is made up of the loss of one's possessions, humiliations, contempt, sufferings, illnesses and spiritual trials, which come to him daily till his death in accordance with my providence; his own cross, whose length consists of a certain period of days or months enduring slander, or lying on a sick-bed, or being forced to beg, or suffering from temptations, dryness, desolation, and other interior trials; his own cross, whose breadth is made up of the most harsh and bitter circumstances brought about by relatives, friends, servants; his own cross, whose depth is made up of the hidden trials I shall inflict on him without his being able to find any comfort from other people, for they also, under my guidance, will turn away from him and join with me in making him suffer.

    http://www.montfort.org.uk/Writings/LFC.php


    So it was with Christ that he was abandoned by almost everyone at his death. St John Paul 2 trod tightly in the feet of his Master.


    The fact that Peter Dimond, under satan's guidance,  posits him as the antichrist is a backhand accolade.



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    Fr Malchi Martin - vindicating St John Paul 2
    « Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 05:44:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    I don't know why everyone keeps calling Malachi "Father" Martin.  He was laicized.  Despite the fact that the Sacramental character of Holy Orders remained, he ceased to be "Father", could not function as such, and was not allowed the title "Father" any longer.



    Completely wrong
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 05:55:08 PM »
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    That was 1994, if you listen to the series of recordings till 1998 MM becomes more and more disillusioned with JP2 until in the last 18 months he is referring to him as a heretic and apostate.


    Probably because more and more of his audience turned out to be Traditional Catholics.


    Or, he found he just couldn't continue to ignore reality any longer and paint over the cracks.

    It's not like he would be the first person it happened to.


    Possibly.  Problem is that we don't know WHICH it was.  There's evidence that he was working for the Jewish Freemason Bea collecting blackmail material on bishops at Vatican II to vote a certain way.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 20, 2014, 07:42:42 PM »
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  • Father Dolindo Ruotolo

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    O Jesus, I Surrender Myself to You



    On November 19, 1970 Don (Fr) Dolindo Ruotolo died at the age of 88.  Padre Pio once said of this priest from Naples, Italy, "The whole of paradise is in your soul". His name "Dolindo" means "Pain" and his life was rich with this pain.  As a child, a teenager, a seminarian and a priest, he experienced humiliation which was the realization of the prophetic words of a bishop who said, "You will be a martyr, but in your heart, not with your blood."

    In his profound humility, he was able to hear the words of God.  Even with his hidden life, he was one of the greatest prophets of the last century.  He wrote to Bishop Hnilica in 1965 that "a new John will rise out of Poland with heroic steps to break the chains beyond the boundaries imposed by the communist tyranny."  On this postcard, he wrote words of consolation for Poland and all the countries suffering under the communist regime.  This prophecy was realized in the papacy of John Paul II.




    Rome’s exorcist finding Bl. John Paul II effective against Satan



    Fr Amorth


    "Not surprisingly, ‘Jesus Christ’ is the name Fr. Amorth most often calls upon to expel demons. But he also turns to saintly men and women for their heavenly assistance. Interestingly, he said that in recent years one man – Blessed Pope John Paul II – has proved to be a particularly powerful intercessor.

    “I have asked the demon more than once, ‘Why are you so scared of John Paul II and I have had two different responses, both interesting. One, ‘because he disrupted my plans.’ And, I think that he is referring to the fall of communism in Russia and Eastern Europe. The collapse of communism.”

    “Another response that he gave me, ‘because he pulled so many young people from my hands.’ There are so many young people who, thanks to John Paul II, were converted. "


    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/romes-exorcist-finding-bl.-john-paul-ii-effective-against-satan/




    Fr Dolindo's Rosary of Surrender to the Divine Will:

    http://www.dolindo.org/english/JESUS%20YOU%20TAKE%20OVER%20.pdf


    God bless all!!

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    « Reply #14 on: November 20, 2014, 11:11:28 PM »
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  • Objective fact: Fr. Amorth, ostensible expert on spiritual combat against demons, enthusiastically supports the patently false, diabolical apparitions of Medjugorje, infamously stating "Medjugorje is fortress against Satan."

    Objective facts: Malachi Martin, under his own name, published sensationalized literary accounts of demonic possession for mass entertainment which can be called - without any fear of exaggeration - outright pornography, and reaped from same vast profits for himself and his Jewish publishing house Harper Collins. Under his pen name "Michael Serafian," Malachi Martin authored a book called The Pilgrim: Pope Paul VI, the Council & the Church in a Time of Decision in 1964 wherein he calumniously and blasphemously condemns the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church on the Jews as "Antisemitism," laying the blame for the alleged atrocities committed against the Jews by the Nazis at the feet of Holy Mother Church, and utterly dismisses the very real threat posed by the Synagogue of Satan as an "anti Semitic" myth. At no point did Malachi Martin ever retract or apologize for this evil book he duplicitously penned under a false name in service of the Church's worst enemies on earth. Indeed, in the very final years of his life, he boasted to Art Bell that "No one has done more for Catholic-Jewish relations than I have."

    Objective fact: Pope John Paul II committed public scandal after public scandal in his promotion of false ecumenism, the most grave being the outrageously blasphemous "inter-religious World Day of Prayer" at Assisi in 1986, where schismatics, heretics, Jews, Mohammedans, pagans and animists were invited to stand alongside and pray in common with the Supreme Pontiff, who permitted - either expressly, or tacitly by his silence - the use of Catholic sanctuaries for the false, satanic rituals of Jews, Buddhists and other diabolists.

    What do you propose we do with these peskily undeniable objective facts, Andy? There are only so many elephants in the room that one can attempt to ignore before being crushed under their tread of their feet.


     

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