Author Topic: Fr Malachi Martin (Read 4217 times)

SJB · « **Reply #15 on:** August 04, 2013, 10:01:33 AM »

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Yeah, I knew he was killed. Interesting though, I thought the Vatican had hired someone to kill him. I guess not. Thanks for sharing, PFT.

He was 78. That may have had something to do with it as well. There is no evidence he was murdered.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** August 05, 2013, 01:19:22 AM »

I think it's a shame that he left the Jesuits.

Geremia · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2013, 02:12:47 AM »

He's a judaizer and fraud. See:

Malachi Martin: "God Could Have Incarnated as a Cow;" "Priests Should Have Been Female"

More on the AJC's Nostra Aetate Errand Boy, Con-Man, Malachi Martin
He wrote "the Judaizing book The Pilgrim under the alias 'Michael Serafian'"

See more posts about how he pushed the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic agenda.

Also, , talking about how he's an exorcist and is a part of a secret organization (of exorcists? more like Freemasons), circa ~8 min. in, I think. If he were a real exorcist, he wouldn't be proclaiming that on national radio, would he?

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #18 on:** August 05, 2013, 02:21:49 PM »

What's up with this shared gravestone (assuming it's not a Photoshop fraud)? Several obits (including the NY times and the Independent in the UK) referred to Kakia Livanos as "Fr. Martin's companion." Apparently she'd been married to a George Livanos; wonder why she wasn't buried with him?

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #19 on:** August 05, 2013, 03:13:42 PM »

I talked to him once about a serious issue; His advice strengthened my resolve in the face of adversity, and taught me a valuable lesson for dealing with the agents of evil.

Geremia · « **Reply #20 on:** August 06, 2013, 12:36:06 AM »

"Malachi Martin's actions against the Church in the 1960s" from AngelQueen

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #21 on:** August 06, 2013, 09:53:16 AM »

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"Malachi Martin's actions against the Church in the 1960s" from AngelQueen

Barf. Angelqueen? Why don't you check the other several dozen threads on Fr. Martin, and stop posting this crap?

s2srea · « **Reply #22 on:** August 06, 2013, 09:59:13 AM »

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"Malachi Martin's actions against the Church in the 1960s" from AngelQueen

Barf. Angelqueen? Why don't you check the other several dozen threads on Fr. Martin, and stop posting this crap?

Rather, why don't they set up a website on the horrors committed by St. Paul, Saul at that time, and focus entirely on that.

Is it that hard to believe the man had a conversion?

SJB · « **Reply #23 on:** August 06, 2013, 10:11:26 AM »

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"Malachi Martin's actions against the Church in the 1960s" from AngelQueen

Barf. Angelqueen? Why don't you check the other several dozen threads on Fr. Martin, and stop posting this crap?

Rather, why don't they set up a website on the horrors committed by St. Paul, Saul at that time, and focus entirely on that.

Is it that hard to believe the man had a conversion?

Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

s2srea · « **Reply #24 on:** August 06, 2013, 11:32:36 AM »

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Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

It feels like you're trying to make a relevant point.... :detective:

SJB · « **Reply #25 on:** August 06, 2013, 11:37:13 AM »

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Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

It feels like you're trying to make a relevant point.... :detective:

Any admission from Martin he was an enemy of the Church before his "conversion?"

s2srea · « **Reply #26 on:** August 06, 2013, 12:49:16 PM »

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Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

It feels like you're trying to make a relevant point.... :detective:
Any admission from Martin he was an enemy of the Church before his "conversion?"

I am unaware of any specific quote of him saying so. But I also don't think he was an outright enemy in the sense that St. Paul was either. His actions are what speak volumes. How many people say they're friendly to the Church today, yet their very actions reveal otherwise. MM was just the opposite, I think; yet you cannot accept that for some reason.

I don't see anyone calling for him to be raised to sainthood- only justly recognizing the good he did, however much it was, in the latter half of his life. I am able to see, and I condemn, the error he was engaged in in his early years, yet it seems some people focus entirely on that.

SJB · « **Reply #27 on:** August 06, 2013, 03:21:20 PM »

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Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

It feels like you're trying to make a relevant point.... :detective:
Any admission from Martin he was an enemy of the Church before his "conversion?"

I am unaware of any specific quote of him saying so. But I also don't think he was an outright enemy in the sense that St. Paul was either. His actions are what speak volumes. How many people say they're friendly to the Church today, yet their very actions reveal otherwise. MM was just the opposite, I think; yet you cannot accept that for some reason.

I don't see anyone calling for him to be raised to sainthood- only justly recognizing the good he did, however much it was, in the latter half of his life. I am able to see, and I condemn, the error he was engaged in in his early years, yet it seems some people focus entirely on that.

You are the one who made the comparison to St. Paul. Anyway, the point is that he did not distance himself from his actions up to and after the Council. That's just a fact.

s2srea · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2013, 03:37:58 PM »

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Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

It feels like you're trying to make a relevant point.... :detective:
Any admission from Martin he was an enemy of the Church before his "conversion?"

I am unaware of any specific quote of him saying so. But I also don't think he was an outright enemy in the sense that St. Paul was either. His actions are what speak volumes. How many people say they're friendly to the Church today, yet their very actions reveal otherwise. MM was just the opposite, I think; yet you cannot accept that for some reason.

I don't see anyone calling for him to be raised to sainthood- only justly recognizing the good he did, however much it was, in the latter half of his life. I am able to see, and I condemn, the error he was engaged in in his early years, yet it seems some people focus entirely on that.
You are the one who made the comparison to St. Paul. Anyway, the point is that he did not distance himself from his actions up to and after the Council. That's just a fact.

I did make the comparison- and that's just what it was. You seemed to imply, and just continued doing so, that I thought they were identical in person. Not so.

Hey may not have distanced himself, publicly or privately, directly- but surely had done so at least indirectly by his exposing of much of what he saw, and through his assistance in the conversion of many priests away from the Novus Ordo to Tradition, one of them my own former priest.

What sort of man would do that?

SJB · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2013, 04:00:34 PM »

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Paul's conversion is well docuмented. He said, "For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

It feels like you're trying to make a relevant point.... :detective:
Any admission from Martin he was an enemy of the Church before his "conversion?"

I am unaware of any specific quote of him saying so. But I also don't think he was an outright enemy in the sense that St. Paul was either. His actions are what speak volumes. How many people say they're friendly to the Church today, yet their very actions reveal otherwise. MM was just the opposite, I think; yet you cannot accept that for some reason.

I don't see anyone calling for him to be raised to sainthood- only justly recognizing the good he did, however much it was, in the latter half of his life. I am able to see, and I condemn, the error he was engaged in in his early years, yet it seems some people focus entirely on that.
You are the one who made the comparison to St. Paul. Anyway, the point is that he did not distance himself from his actions up to and after the Council. That's just a fact.

I did make the comparison- and that's just what it was. You seemed to imply, and just continued doing so, that I thought they were identical in person. Not so.

Hey may not have distanced himself, publicly or privately, directly- but surely had done so at least indirectly by his exposing of much of what he saw, and through his assistance in the conversion of many priests away from the Novus Ordo to Tradition, one of them my own former priest.

What sort of man would do that?

A man who either saw no contradiction in his actions or one who just pretended the contradiction did not exist. Either way, it's not good.