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The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.  


The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.  


This Priest [Fr. Morris] is a Member of the Legionaries of Christ of whom the Founder was a Molester: Fr. Marcel Marciel.

Francis commended The Legionaries of Christ just recently.

Francis Commends Legionaries of Christ June 2013

Odd the Legionaries of Christ say there were Founded in 1941 in Mexico "never" mentioning their Founders name: Child Molester Fr. Marcel Marciel.

Never mention Founders Name

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  • Is that liturgical Zumba dancing?   Then off to theology on tap lol.

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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 04:16:48 PM »
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  • It is referred to as unnatural vice for a reason. The act is never natural by definition and therefore nobody can have a natural inclination to do unnatural acts.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 05:41:05 PM »
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  • Having unnatural appetites is not a sin, but the way that you get unnatural appetites is through sin.  A person isn't born an alcoholic.  It happens through sustained self-abuse.  Same with homoism.  You're not born a homo.  You become a homo by allowing yourself to accept evil into your soul.  So if someone is a homo, and they don't act on it, they've still got a serious disorder which was self-inflicted.  They are not suitable to minister to the people.  I guess that when Francis said "who am I to judge [my own priests and clergy]", that he was trying to tell us that he doesn't have jurisdiction over the clergy.  Hmm, is the pope a sedevacantist?

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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 06:07:18 PM »
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    Having unnatural appetites is not a sin, but the way that you get unnatural appetites is through sin.  A person isn't born an alcoholic.  It happens through sustained self-abuse.  Same with homoism.  You're not born a homo.  You become a homo by allowing yourself to accept evil into your soul.  So if someone is a homo, and they don't act on it, they've still got a serious disorder which was self-inflicted.  They are not suitable to minister to the people.  I guess that when Francis said "who am I to judge [my own priests and clergy]", that he was trying to tell us that he doesn't have jurisdiction over the clergy.  Hmm, is the pope a sedevacantist?


    I guess when he keeps calling himself "bishop of Rome" that could be
    because he thinks that's all he is, regardless of what tradition holds for
    that office.  

    That would make it extra odd that he would make that decree against
    the Franciscans of the Immaculate.  Or, since the document was only
    in Italian, maybe then it only applies to their house in Rome?  
     
    You know, Bishop of Rome and all...........


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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 06:10:53 PM »
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    The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.  


    The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.  


    This Priest [Fr. Morris] is a Member of the Legionaries of Christ of whom the Founder was a Molester: Fr. Marcel Marciel.

    Francis commended The Legionaries of Christ just recently.

    Francis Commends Legionaries of Christ June 2013

    Odd the Legionaries of Christ say there were Founded in 1941 in Mexico "never" mentioning their Founders name: Child Molester Fr. Marcel Marciel.

    Never mention Founders Name


    That group should be disbanded.

    And what Opus Dei?
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 06:16:17 PM »
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    The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.  


    The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.  


    This Priest [Fr. Morris] is a Member of the Legionaries of Christ of whom the Founder was a Molester: Fr. Marcel Marciel.

    Francis commended The Legionaries of Christ just recently.

    Francis Commends Legionaries of Christ June 2013

    Odd the Legionaries of Christ say there were Founded in 1941 in Mexico "never" mentioning their Founders name: Child Molester Fr. Marcel Marciel.

    Never mention Founders Name


     :applause:
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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 06:22:28 PM »
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    Having unnatural appetites is not a sin, but the way that you get unnatural appetites is through sin.  A person isn't born an alcoholic.  It happens through sustained self-abuse.  Same with homoism.  You're not born a homo.  You become a homo by allowing yourself to accept evil into your soul.  So if someone is a homo, and they don't act on it, they've still got a serious disorder which was self-inflicted.  They are not suitable to minister to the people.  I guess that when Francis said "who am I to judge [my own priests and clergy]", that he was trying to tell us that he doesn't have jurisdiction over the clergy.  Hmm, is the pope a sedevacantist?


    I guess when he keeps calling himself "bishop of Rome" that could be
    because he thinks that's all he is, regardless of what tradition holds for
    that office.  

    That would make it extra odd that he would make that decree against
    the Franciscans of the Immaculate.  Or, since the document was only
    in Italian, maybe then it only applies to their house in Rome?  
     
    You know, Bishop of Rome and all...........




    Yeah, I was going to say the same thing!  Maybe the Franciscans should just say, "who are you to judge?  It's out of your jurisdiction!"


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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 12:19:10 AM »
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  •  :applause:
    Quote from: Ryan
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    Having unnatural appetites is not a sin, but the way that you get unnatural appetites is through sin.  A person isn't born an alcoholic.  It happens through sustained self-abuse.  Same with homoism.  You're not born a homo.  You become a homo by allowing yourself to accept evil into your soul.  So if someone is a homo, and they don't act on it, they've still got a serious disorder which was self-inflicted.  They are not suitable to minister to the people.  I guess that when Francis said "who am I to judge [my own priests and clergy]", that he was trying to tell us that he doesn't have jurisdiction over the clergy.  Hmm, is the pope a sedevacantist?


    I guess when he keeps calling himself "bishop of Rome" that could be
    because he thinks that's all he is, regardless of what tradition holds for
    that office.  

    That would make it extra odd that he would make that decree against
    the Franciscans of the Immaculate.  Or, since the document was only
    in Italian, maybe then it only applies to their house in Rome?  
     
    You know, Bishop of Rome and all...........




    Yeah, I was going to say the same thing!  Maybe the Franciscans should just say, "who are you to judge?  It's out of your jurisdiction!"
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 02:09:46 AM »
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    And what Opus Dei?


    Yes, isn't Opus Dei supposed to support the Pope in anything he says?  So if the Pope denies his jurisdiction, shouldn't Opus Dei say "of course, that's right.  He's not the Pope, because he said so"?

    This is coming from someone whose sister is a member of Opus Dei.  I have had very frustrating conversations with that one...  :facepalm:

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    Fr. Jonathan Morris Pope Francis Comment Being a Homosexual "is not a sin"
    « Reply #10 on: August 05, 2013, 12:19:09 AM »
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    The Pope in Rio de Janeiro World Youth Day photos:

    Looking south ...........


    People pack Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Sunday, July 28, 2013. Hundreds of thousands of young people slept under chilly skies in the white sand awaiting Pope Francisâ final Mass for World Youth Day. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana)



    Looking north ...........



    July 27, 2013: Pilgrims and residents gather on Copacabana beach before the arrival of Pope Francis for World Youth Day in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. (AP Photo)

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/29/what-pope-francis-really-said-about-gays-and-no-it-not-new/#ixzz2b4KF3P8d


    Note:  July 27th -- just one month after the SARD was composed
    and released for the Silver Anniversary of the episcopal consecrations.
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