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Offline Ladislaus

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Fr. Jenkins articulates Moderate (aka Opinionist) Sedevacantism
« on: June 23, 2020, 08:26:26 PM »
Father Jenkins does a great job of articulating the more moderate sedevacantist opinion, that to which I myself lean.  I have called my own position "sededoubtist" but Fr. Jenkins articulates the same principles to which I hold.



At one point he states that he does not consider dogmatic sedevacantists to be Traditional Catholics because they are usurping an authority they do not have.

This is almost verbatim the position I hold ... except that I also hold to a variant of sedeprivationism.
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Offline DecemRationis

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Re: Fr. Jenkins articulates Moderate (aka Opinionist) Sedevacantism
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2020, 08:33:11 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 23, 2020, 08:26:26 PM
Father Jenkins does a great job of articulating the more moderate sedevacantist opinion, that to which I myself lean.  I have called my own position "sededoubtist" but Fr. Jenkins articulates the same principles to which I hold.



At one point he states that he does not consider dogmatic sedevacantists to be Traditional Catholics because they are usurping an authority they do not have.

This is almost verbatim the position I hold ... except that I also hold to a variant of sedeprivationism.
Yes, very sound. 

Father Jenkins is a reasonable, honorable man.

And I did not mean that like Antony did in referring to Brutus. My tongue was where it should be. 
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Fr. Jenkins articulates Moderate (aka Opinionist) Sedevacantism
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 07:27:24 AM »
But not so moderate, reasonable nor honorable when discussing the Thuc consecrations.  
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Fr. Jenkins articulates Moderate (aka Opinionist) Sedevacantism
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 08:22:00 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 23, 2020, 08:26:26 PM
At one point he states that he does not consider dogmatic sedevacantists to be Traditional Catholics because they are usurping an authority they do not have.
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I don't understand. If it is a usurpation of authority to say that someone has to agree with your opinion in order to be Catholic, how is Fr. Jenkins not doing exactly the same thing when he says that dogmatic sedevacantists are not Catholic because of what they believe? How is he not usurping authority in deciding who is traditional Catholic and who isn't?
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Offline Cera

Re: Fr. Jenkins articulates Moderate (aka Opinionist) Sedevacantism
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 10:10:06 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on June 24, 2020, 08:22:00 AM
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I don't understand. If it is a usurpation of authority to say that someone has to agree with your opinion in order to be Catholic, how is Fr. Jenkins not doing exactly the same thing when he says that dogmatic sedevacantists are not Catholic because of what they believe? How is he not usurping authority in deciding who is traditional Catholic and who isn't?
He is referring to God's system of authority, which is top - down.
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