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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2018, 07:09:05 PM »
Quote from: poche on June 11, 2018, 05:25:09 AM
They also made a vow of poverty which means that while technically they may own the property their right to dispose of the property is dependent on the interpretation of their superiors (aka the bishop)
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Did they also make a vow to abandon their Faith when given the command to do so by their superior?
What's that vow called, the vow of apostasy?
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I knew a lifelong faithful nun who was faced with making enormous changes in 1969, when she was about 58 years old, and went to ask family members if she was wrong to be considering leaving her convent. She had spent about 40 years in missionary work with the Victory Knoll Sisters, working in remote places like Calexico near the Mexico border, teaching catechism, caring for the sick, and being a model of Our Lady to the poor. Her superior wanted her to get rid of her habit, and go out into the world looking for a job. 
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Offline poche

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2018, 12:07:39 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on June 14, 2018, 06:56:48 PM
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Saying "NO" to "Don't go to Mass on Sunday" or "I want you to sell drugs on the street" would be okay. But for "Your real estate shall be sold to a publicly notorious satanist who could desecrate the property," saying "No" is crossing the line! Why that's just as bad as pretending not to notice when "It's your turn to do the dishes."
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Duplicity in action, demonstrated by poche, in accord with the spirit of Vat.II! Failing to obey the order to keep a KP duty schedule could mean the collapse of society! But providing the means for an avowed satanist to conduct Black Mass in public from the grounds of an old convent chapel isn't worth worrying about, according to poche. Nuns have no right to stand up for morality and the good of society, they only have the duty to obey their local bishop, legitimately established (cf. Vat.II, SC 22.2).
There is no guarantee that any other secular buyer would not offer a black mass when the price is right. 
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Offline poche

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2018, 12:14:04 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on June 14, 2018, 07:09:05 PM
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Did they also make a vow to abandon their Faith when given the command to do so by their superior?
What's that vow called, the vow of apostasy?
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I knew a lifelong faithful nun who was faced with making enormous changes in 1969, when she was about 58 years old, and went to ask family members if she was wrong to be considering leaving her convent. She had spent about 40 years in missionary work with the Victory Knoll Sisters, working in remote places like Calexico near the Mexico border, teaching catechism, caring for the sick, and being a model of Our Lady to the poor. Her superior wanted her to get rid of her habit, and go out into the world looking for a job.
I think that the real problem is that in their rush to follow the "spirit" of Vatican II the sisters may have failed to follow the original charism of their order. The result is that there are now many elderly sisters and almost no younger sisters. This is the reason for the property sale in the first place, to take care of the elderly sisters.   
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2018, 04:48:40 AM »
If Poche was a woman, he'd be pregnant in no time flat.

Oh, holding hands is OK. Oh, going walking by ourselves is OK. OH, kissing me on the cheek is OK. Oh, tickling my back is OK...………..
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Offline poche

Re: Francis's sale of a Catholic convent to Hollywood witch
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2018, 10:44:53 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 16, 2018, 04:48:40 AM
If Poche was a woman, he'd be pregnant in no time flat.

Oh, holding hands is OK. Oh, going walking by ourselves is OK. OH, kissing me on the cheek is OK. Oh, tickling my back is OK...………..
This makes no sense. What does any of this have to do with religious life?
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