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Fr Brian DArcy: Why Id have been a better priest if Id married
« on: November 01, 2012, 09:28:26 AM »
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    In a fascinating documentary to be shown next week, Fr Brian D’Arcy opens his heart as never before. Stephanie Bell reports

    A lonely man whose heart ached for a wife and a home of his own while remaining true to his calling is the tragic portrait which Fr Brian D’Arcy reveals of himself in a powerful new documentary.

    The controversial Catholic cleric has laid bare his soul in what is a deeply personal and at times highly emotive film charting the extent of his torment in the wake of the Vatican’s move to censor him.

    The Fermanagh priest opened his heart to the BBC, who followed him during a six month journey when he questioned whether or not he could remain a priest and be true to himself.

    The broadcaster, who is known for his liberal stance on issues such as mandatory celibacy, the ban on women priests and contraception, goes further than he ever has before in revealing his true thoughts in the film The Turbulent Priest. But despite his controversial views on the church, the 67-year-old member of the Passionist Order comes across as a man deeply devoted to his parishioners.

    Earlier this year it was reported that Fr D’Arcy had been censured by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in the Vatican, and that his weekly newspaper columns were being run past a church censor. The step was taken following an anonymous complaint to the CDF. The film starts on the day that news of his censorship breaks just as Fr D’Arcy is due to take Mass. The first of many emotive scenes is filmed as Aideen McGinley approaches the priest to reassure him in front of the church that he has the support of his congregation.

    Her kind words prove too much for Fr D’Arcy who struggles to control his emotions and openly weeps.

    Tears also flow when he talks about the impact of his own childhood abuse by two members of the church.

    He said: “You’re afraid the secret will destroy you until you realise, hey, I’ve nothing to be afraid of. I’ve nothing to be ashamed of and I can say that clearly now, and it’s the same thing when the Vatican came after me, I could say, ‘I’ve nothing to be ashamed of. I didn’t do anything wrong.’”

    Fr D’Arcy lets his guard down again when he talks about how celibacy has impacted on his life. He reveals that he was once in love and wanted to marry although he never broke his vows: “I have been in love and I did think I would get married once.

    “Both of us were aware it was not just a sexual attraction and both of us felt that we could be holy and good people and be married. I would have been a much better priest had I married. I think it would have been the whole thing of sharing your life with somebody else and the whole thing of making sacrifices for somebody else and also that idea of a companion, a closeness, a friend, someone to call home.”

    Another emotive scene comes when he visits the home in England of his good friend Michael Carroll, who was ordained on the same day as him but left the priesthood after 10 years.

    Seeing his friend happy in his own home with his wife evoked a strong reaction from Fr D’Arcy who spoke about the incredible loneliness which celibacy forces on priests: “This is what I miss, having a home of my own. Ask any single person who doesn’t want to be single what it’s like. You’re a nobody in the world for a start. You have no place really you can call your own. You have no friendship you can call your own. You have given your life to everybody else and find that you have no life at all at the end of it. Where is home? At the end of my life I don’t have a home. Ideally religious life is supposed to be a type of home. It isn’t, not now anyway.”

    In the hour long programme, the BBC’s Natalie Maynes follows Fr D’Arcy as he journeys across Europe in search of answers as to whether he can continue to be a priest. He travels to Austria to speak to Helmut Schuller, a priest who is actively lobbying for reform of some of the church’s teachings. He also visits Father Brian McKevitt, editor of a conservative Catholic newspaper, who has a much more traditional viewpoint and says of Brian’s Sunday World column: “A lot of what you write is a kind of a candy floss spirituality. It looks attractive but when you actually bite into it there’s an absence of substance, an absence of nourishment.”

    And he calls with his friend, actor Frank Kelly, who played the infamous Father Jack from the popular comedy series Father Ted. Narrator and producer Natalie Maynes said: “Making this film has been a unique opportunity to document an insider’s take on the Irish Catholic Church, at a time when it is under particular scrutiny.

    “Father Brian D’Arcy has been in religious life for 50 years and that half century of experience has convinced him the Church should be taking its lead from the ordinary ‘grass roots’ Catholics he helps on a daily basis.

    “But Brian worries the Vatican is returning to the conservative church of his youth which he believes will alienate Catholics struggling with core teachings like clerical celibacy, second relationships, homosexuality, and contraception. The worst case scenario, says Brian, is that ‘we allow them to impose this legalistic church again. Look what happened — that’s what led to the abuse of children, abuse of power, the abuse of the church itself’.”

    Throughout the programme, the church comes in for strong criticism from Fr D’Arcy, who concludes of his own situation that he is a priest trying to be authentic in an organisation that is dysfunctional. He is philosophical about how the church might react to him, once again questioning its authority and values.

    “I’m a bit nervous about it,” he said. “I’ve no idea at all what the reaction will be. I ended by telling my congregation that I do still want to be a priest but whether or not I will still be a priest on Tuesday (after the programme is screened) is beyond my control.”



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    Fr Brian DArcy: Why Id have been a better priest if Id married
    « Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 07:43:49 PM »
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    Fr Brian DArcy: Why Id have been a better priest if Id married
    « Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 08:26:58 PM »
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  • Oh I don't know. Just a reminder the Church is falling apart while posters fight to the death over Max Krah's ethnicity. Because we all know that is of the utmost importance right now. That thread has 25 posts. Threads on priests advocating gay marriage and married priests? Yawn...

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    Fr Brian DArcy: Why Id have been a better priest if Id married
    « Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 08:45:09 PM »
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    Oh I don't know. Just a reminder the Church is falling apart while posters fight to the death over Max Krah's ethnicity. Because we all know that is of the utmost importance right now. That thread has 25 posts. Threads on priests advocating gay marriage and married priests? Yawn...


    No one is fighting over that.  Actions are what matters, and whatever the ethnicity is largely incidental.

    You're worse than the Remnant people Stevus.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 08:47:55 PM »
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    Threads on priests advocating gay marriage and married priests? Yawn...


    What is whining on a forum about that going to accomplish?

    You mean Benedict XVI and the Bishops will stop being modernists who intend to gradually move us towards these things (like he did on the condom issue - which you defended!) if you whine on this forum?

    This forum is intended for an audience of Traditionalists and is chiefly about issues within Tradition.

    And we are reaching the target audience.  The phillistines are sending their "big boy" out to confront us.



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    « Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 09:00:35 PM »
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  • The reason we have liberal priests attacking clerical celibacy and promotion of pervert "marriage" in the mainstream, even among "Catholic" priests, is that there is an entrenched, anti-Christian, pro-child murder (pro-abortion, even pro- full term abortion) group in charge of this country and with a dominant position in global affairs..  And they're imposing themselves not just on conciliarism but trying to impose their values on Catholic Tradition.  

    that's the problem and if they try to use their threats and intimidation against us, we will have to keep opposing them no matter what the cost.  

    God will either give us sacrifices or temporal victories, as a prelude to his Final Victory.

    Our enemies will suffer eternal damnation unless they repent.

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    Fr Brian DArcy: Why Id have been a better priest if Id married
    « Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 11:35:15 PM »
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  • Well, I don't think the state of the Church at large is unimportant. Archbishop Lefebvre used to say that when the Pope comes to his right mind, he will need an army to rebuild the Church. And that's what traditional and orthodox priests would provide. I won't comment on the St.Pius X Society and what it is going through, apart to say all involved have my prayers, but that lofty ideal of the Archbishop has always been the guiding principle of Indult groups, even those who disagree with some of Rome's actions towards us and towards the Church at large as well. Hopefully, the older generation of liberal priests will be replaced by a newer generation of orthodox priests who look to the Church's liturgical tradition and doctrinal heritage.

    As for Fr.Darcy, who proves himself unworthy of his dignity that as a priest surpasses even that of the Angels, he should spend more time listening to Our Lord, the great High Priest, Himself celibate, who spoke of the excellence of celibacy as a sign of discipleship, the abundant rewards promised to those who joyfully embrace this calling both in the next life and even in this, and to St.Paul, another celibate priest par excellence, who said he preferred that all were like him, that the married man is concerned about his wife and children, but the unmarried man is free to please the Lord, and the Council of Trent, which says that God who witnessed and holds you to your vow of perfect continence is not so weak so as to be unable to give you the efficacious grace to fulfil it provided you seek it of Him rightly.
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 11:37:25 PM »
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  • No, it's not unimportant.  But Cathinfo has approximately no impact on such people.

    Traditionalists already know the conciliar church is a mess.

    So what is Stevus' point?


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    « Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 11:52:42 PM »
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  • Ok, if you don't think it's unimportant, I misunderstood. As for Stevus' point, although only he can answer that for certain, obviously the position each of us takes on how the crisis in the Church is to be tackled going ahead impacts what we are concerned with. He is free to correct me here, but reading his posts, I think he is far more concerned with how orthodoxy is to be restored to the Church at large than with battles among traditional Catholics.
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 12:20:21 AM »
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  • An occasional reminder that "Yes, there is a Crisis in the Church" is fine -- it helps to be reminded once in a while.

    But websites like "Novus Ordo Watch" really only serve a purpose for new-to-Tradition types who need a daily fix of "the Church is really a mess right now" to keep their footsteps steady as they boldly tread a new path in their lives.

    I understand how that must be.

    But for many of us, we don't need the constant reminders, and we'd rather talk about other things.

    That's why there is more than one sub-forum on CathInfo -- people are interested in different things. My wife, for example, loves the "Catholic Living in the Modern World" forum best of all. I love that topic too, but she asked me to create that sub-forum sooner than I probably would have.

    She avoids the "Crisis in the Church" sub-forum like the plague, or over-used cliches.

    Others practically live in the "Crisis" sub-forum.

    There's something for everyone on CathInfo.
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    « Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 11:56:24 PM »
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  • I agree with almost everything you said, Matthew, except that I seem to have given you a mistaken impression, because I don't really agree with the modus operandi of Novus Ordo Watch and similar websites.

    Catholics who strive to hold fast to tradition and stand firm on orthodoxy need look no further than those who have gone before us whom Holy Mother Church presents for our veneration and imitation. The Saints and Fathers had a love of orthodoxy and a hatred of heresy begotten by personal sanctity, it was this that inspired them to be not of the world, not because of a love of polemics or a fascination with  controversies for their own sake. I really dislike the ridiculous polemical tone some of these websites have (Traditio comes to mind) and their neo-Donatist way of speaking of problems in the Church today, not that these matters don't have their place, but this is certainly not the way. So it definitely wasn't that I was agreeing with.

    Anyway, I agree, as in the Church at large, put any significantly large group of Catholics together, and you'll have different people with a wide range of interests,  and CathInfo certainly has something for everyone.
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.


     

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