Author Topic: For Sedevacantists (Read 13256 times)

Kephapaulos · « **on:** July 05, 2007, 01:43:54 AM »

Two questions for sedevacantist Cathinfo members:

1) How did you come to adhering to the sedevacantist thesis?

2) If you ended up ever actually meeting Benedict XVI in person, would you tell him straight that he is not Pope?

Cletus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2007, 02:28:02 AM »

1. I simply came to the conclusion that it was the only Catholic way to account for what I knew infallibly through Unaided Reason about the nature of the post-Vatican II church.

2. No. If for some reason I HAD to meet with him, I would not say, "You are not the pope." I would talk to him with cool reserve but some respect for him as a classy humanist type ONLY about Mozart. That would be how I would make my point, anyway. For me he simply is not someone to whom I should be speaking about Christ or the obedience or faith or anything spiritual at all.

There is no call to be bitter and sour about these things: after all, it is not as though we are OWED a Church or a Pope or Sanctifying Grace or salvation itself. We have to be reasonable and moderate about how we view even our worst enemies. And we ALL have souls to TRY to save. There would be no point in not being as nice to the man as possible if I HAD to meet him for some reason.

Oh, but I would insist on calling him by his first Christian name or his last name with the secular title of his choice and that he dress in a business suit at our meeting. If he did it for his brother at THEIR Mozart-related tete-a-tete he could do it at ours. Any sign of my respecting him as a religious leader would be out of the question.

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2007, 06:45:15 AM »

Would you address him as Your Holiness, or Your Wholiness? (joke intended but would you address him as a pope for public decency?)

Cletus · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2007, 01:02:42 PM »

I would not address him as pope, or refer to him as pope. Iw would call him Josef, Joe, Herr Ratzinger, or nothing, politely letting him choose.

I don't see what is so "decent" about calling him pope. I don't think that it creates "public indecency" not to call him pope. What ARE examples of public indecency are the World Youth Day Events that the accepted rulers of the tiny nation of Vatican City sponsor year after year.

Trinity · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2007, 01:12:22 PM »

Wow! Those are great questions, Keph.

My story is long. I won't bore you with it, but suffice it to say that it was the hardest, most painful thing I've ever done. But my choices were to either close my eyes to what was going on or accept the one and only conclusion that fit. Since I had committed myself to the Truth, the whole Truth, and only the Truth years before, I didn't really have a choice.

Question two: I would hope that I had the courage of John the Baptist to say, "It is not lawful..."

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