Author Topic: For all sedevacantists and conclavists (Read 7822 times)

CM · « **Reply #25 on:** June 29, 2009, 12:05:21 AM »

Quote from: Caminus

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Apostolic (not apostolic succession, but apostolic; believe the doctrine of the apostles as defined by the Magisterium)

The old saying is that schism is usually bound up with or leads to heresy. Well, ladies and gentlemen, here it is.

Please show me the dogmatic teachings that I have denied.

Or will you ignore the question because you cannot answer?

CM · « **Reply #26 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:19:12 AM »

Another question, bound up with this one: Do you believe that in the last days if there is only one priest of apostolic succession left, and four people who are laity, and they are brought before Antichrist, who kills the priest, that the four lay people are then no longer Catholic, since there exists in the world no more clergy of apostolic succession and hence no Apostolic Catholic Church?

Caraffa · « **Reply #27 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:29:53 PM »

Thank you Roscoe. On what grounds can you say that Benedict XV was an "anti-pope?" I've never come across any heresy in his encyclicals. Was he like Pius XI and XII a bit weak in curbing Modernism/Pluralism-yes, but he was no heretic.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:52:56 PM »

That's right Caraffa. Benedict XV is by no means an anti-Pope but Catholic Martyr is desperate to eliminate him because of the 1917 Code of Canon Law, compiled under Benny XV's watch, which says that catechumens must be given a Catholic burial. As a neo-Feeneyite, he cannot accept reality and so he has to throw out Popes and Doctors left and right ( he says that Bellarmine is a heretic too ).

Don't get drawn into this nonsense.

Welcome by the way -- whatever you are! Here is a rundown.

Catholic Martyr is the resident Feeneyite and sedevacantist. He has made a Feeneyite convert of the young DeMaistre. I am the converted pagan turned sedevacantist. Dawn and gladius_veritatis and trent13 and Uriel I believe are also sedevacantists. Parentsfortruth and Roscoe are sedevacantists in all but name, but they're afraid to say there's no Pope and so they go off into their imaginations and say that Siri was elected in 1958 ( or 1963 ) and that he has a successor out there even though they have no clue how this successor could have been elected or where he is ( so you see, they also are without a Pope. ) Prodinoscopus, Caminus and I believe elizabeth are SSPX, as is the board operator Matthew ( ChantCD ).

Raoul76 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:00:08 PM »

"However he comes up a winner with the idea that Ben 15 most likely is. Without even considering his doctrinal deficiencies and strange actions, the very election(???) of Della Chiesa is just about the most improbable thing I have ever heard of, moreso even than the abdication(?) of Celestine and the election(?) of the anti-pope Boniface."

Actually Boniface is not an anti-Pope because only the Church determines who is an anti-Pope ( not counting our time where the Church is in eclipse ).

I don't know what kind of sin it is to keep saying that an accepted Pope is an anti-Pope but it is a strange one. Especially since Boniface VIII was behind the drafting of Unam Sanctam and was a very strong Pope. Are you related to King Philip or something?