Author Topic: For all sedevacantists and conclavists (Read 7826 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #20 on:** June 28, 2009, 03:41:21 AM »

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The Body of Christ is made up of only sedevacantists, and even then only those who are Catholic, rejecting all heresies including the illogical BoD and BoB, and not recognizing any heretics as Catholics, such as heretical antipope Benedict XV.

WOW! Your knowledge of things so difficult to discern is amazing! There was a prophet in the OT days who lamented that there were no other left who were faithful to God. God told him that he did not actually know what he was talking about, and that there were MANY others in Israel who still had not been unfaithful to the Lord. This SHOCKED the prophet, as, to all outward appearances, the contrary was true. IOW, you do not know what the hell you are talking about, and would profit immensely from remaining silent upon this issue until the dust has settled and Holy Church herself has pronounced something either way. God speed.

Caminus · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:03:55 AM »

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Apostolic (not apostolic succession, but apostolic; believe the doctrine of the apostles as defined by the Magisterium)

The old saying is that schism is usually bound up with or leads to heresy. Well, ladies and gentlemen, here it is.

Caraffa · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2009, 09:16:18 PM »

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The Body of Christ is made up of only sedevacantists, and even then only those who are Catholic, rejecting all heresies including the illogical BoD and BoB, and not recognizing any heretics as Catholics, such as heretical antipope Benedict XV.

I can understand certain forms of sedevacantism after 1958, although I'm not one. But I've never heard this before. Do sedes have their own novelties? Just asking.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2009, 09:54:56 PM »

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Charity is love of God, and it cannot exist when a person esteems, respects, tolerates or submits to false religions, including Varican II and any other heresy that people believe in. No. charity demands that we admonish those who believe themselves to be Catholic and who turn aside from the duty to believe all that God has revealed through the Magisterium.

The Body of Christ is made up of only sedevacantists, and even then only those who are Catholic, rejecting all heresies including the illogical BoD and BoB, and not recognizing any heretics as Catholics, such as heretical antipope Benedict XV.

:dancing-banana: I know a parish where you'll fit like a hand in glove :dancing-banana:

You can get called out from the pulpit, make sure your kids never get soiled being around non-SVs, there is high drama and intrigue! AND there are severe and lasting punishments for those who displease the clergy! :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

roscoe · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:54:49 PM »

Welcome to the Forum Caraffa although I am ??? re: your moniker.

For the record, there are a few of us here who believe Card Siri( Gregory XVII) was actually elected as the true Pope in 1958. We are not 'sedes' because we do not believe the chair of Peter to be vacant. It is true we do not know who the real Pope is at this time, but that doesn't mean there is not one.

Also there are those in this Forum whose historical conception has no inkling that there have been more than a few times in European history where Christians have had to go underground-- sometimes for long periods. Along with that, there was often confusion as to who was true Pope.

For whatever reeason, those who cling to the v2 anti-popes would have us believe that there is no precedent for what has happened since 1958. Additionally they either cannot or will not answer the query-- is there such a thing as an anti-pope?

CM is our resident crap shooter as he believes Pius XI & XII to be anti-popes, whereas I do not. However he comes up a winner with the idea that Ben 15 most likely is. Without even considering his doctrinal deficiencies and strange actions, the very election(???) of Della Chiesa is just about the most improbable thing I have ever heard of, moreso even than the abdication(?) of Celestine and the election(?) of the anti-pope Boniface.