Author Topic: Fisher More College banned by bishop from saying Latin Mass (Read 12404 times)

Geremia · « **Reply #30 on:** March 04, 2014, 11:17:36 PM »

Check out Dr. Dudley's FMC page: http://fishermore.edu/faculty/dr-john-a-j-dudley/
He seems to be one of their most accomplished profs! I hope they keep him!

poche · « **Reply #31 on:** March 05, 2014, 04:13:27 AM »

This would be a good opportunity for interested students to rabblerouse and have demonstrations to let the bidhop in question know how they feel about this situation.
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SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #32 on:** March 05, 2014, 01:54:49 PM »

I think that this is a good example of why good Catholics cannot remain obedient to Rome. Rome has lost the Faith. They are sanctioning an illegal and irreverant rite, and they are teaching heresy. Obedience under these circuмstances has highly predictable results.

Man of the West · « **Reply #33 on:** March 05, 2014, 04:03:12 PM »

Quote from: SoldierOfChrist

I think that this is a good example of why good Catholics cannot remain obedient to Rome. Rome has lost the Faith. They are sanctioning an illegal and irreverant rite, and they are teaching heresy. Obedience under these circuмstances has highly predictable results.

Not only the circuмstances of this particular incident, but the substance Dr. Dudley's paper, seem to suggest exactly that. Strange that he does not draw the conclusion himself. I would not say that he does not see the matter clearly, however. His reluctance stems neither from cowardice nor from dim wits, but from humility in the face of fate. He recognizes that it has not fallen to his lot to be the one who lights the fuse which ignites the conflagration. It is not his task to make explicit that which remains tenuously implicit, but he has brought the matter to the very edge of eruption.

There is an elephant in the room, and someday someone will yank on its trunk.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #34 on:** March 05, 2014, 04:25:11 PM »

Here was the ruse perpetrated by Benedict XVI.

With the Indult, the Tridentine Mass was forbidden except where allowed by the Ordinary.

With the Motu, it was allowed except where forbidden by the Ordinary.

So with a little bit of semantics, Benedict XVI pretended to be the great champion and liberator of the Tridentine Mass. And many fell for this, considering him to be sympathetic with Tradition.

So that's why Father Kramer pines for the return of Benedict, despite the fact that his theology does not differ in any substantial way from that of Francis. Francis is just more bold and bumbling about it. Benedict was more subtle and can say things in typical modernist fashion, where it can be at once considered orthodox and heretical.