actually, Gerry Matatics would say yes, avoid Shakespeare, he feels it is a Trojan Horse to push poor morals and was a part of the attack on the Church in 16th C England....
Funny
I'll see you and raise you a bishop and and a lit prof
hows, +Williamson and Dr. David Allen White...
+W:
"Bishop Williamson pointed out that Shakespeare was neither a theologian nor a philosopher. He was an artist, one of the greatest artists of all times, the Bishop said."
Dr DAW:
"In teaching Shakespeare, I’ve been fortunate to deal with the greatest writer the English language has every known, a master of language who used it with precision, beauty, depth, and genuine spiritual insight."
Not only that but Dr White has witnessed Shakespeare initiate dozens of conversions.
maybe so, maybe not-the discussion continues on that, not sure what the "raising" thing is, but I have her now on hide, so really, could care less what the phony Catholic thinks....White's comments do not mention morals of Shakespeare, only writing and use of language, grammer,etc...mechanics, not morals noted.....
I'm not sure what you're saying...it sounds like you are saying +W is a phony Catholic, and while his personal opinions, like everyone else's run the gamut from ridiculous to right on, he is certainly no phony, he is a solid as any of the other SSPX bishops...which is to say, solid.
So no the discussion does not continue...because Dr. DAW would not be teaching WS as some great thing if he were morally offensive. The same does not always apply to +W who has offered up recommendations to view "morally offensive" material before...but that is not the tone of this particular interview of his...so...now you're called...and I'll take all your chips.
Sorry, I missed your comment Belloc, until Scipio brought it up again.
Dr. White often speaks on WS's personal life and morals. "He was not a courageous Catholic..." is a line you'll hear often (referring to the fact that for many years he hid his Faith in his work rather than practice it outright), however he ended well and his works are Catholic to the core. One of my favorite commentaries is the one titled "Shakespeare and the Modern World", if anyone is interested. It goes into Shakespeare's personal life in detail and why he is the perfect instrument for conversions at this time. Had he been a "courageous Catholic" he most likely would have been martyred and we would not have this treasure today, so God allows everything, even our weaknesses, for a reason. Even the religious confusion he endured while his Faith was being tested, the time he spent not practicing, all of it resulted in those works that we can relate to even now, or I should say, especially now.
The thing is they portray good to be good and evil to be evil. It gets complicated but life is complicated and we can relate to that. Literature like this is an instrument we can use to teach ourselves and others the consequences of making the wrong decision or the joys of making the right ones. They are extended parables so to speak. I would much rather teach my child (at the appropriate ages of course) through other people's, or other characters' mistakes in literature than have them go out and make all those mistakes on their own. He'll make his own for sure but if I can mitigate that with a few parables or good works of literature, I will.
Not only, that but most people are so fallen away from God that the mention of anything religious will turn them away even more, or their ideas of religion are so twisted that they cannot grasp Catholic truths, whereas learning through a more veiled instrument can restore them to humanity first so that the ground is fertile for grace to take hold. People can't be saints if they don't even know how to be human and Shakespeare is one who answers many questions of humanity, from the perspective of the Faith, but without making that immediately obvious.
It's too bad there's a crusade against him within tradition. It does not surprise me, but it's really too bad because a lot of good comes of the study of his work.