Hey Bellroc...I'm not going any place, I tend to like cathinfo a bit too.  I have plenty of practice with holirthanthous at FE, you're nothing new to me.

Besides, I like to keep up periodically with what Stevus is thinking.

Isn't it interesting that we have been members here the same amount of time.

But I did get uncomfortable when they started developing the gαy character. They use Michael to portray "homophobic" views towards Oscar as being socially unacceptable. Then they use other characters to encourage Oscar, seek to "understand" him and even set him up. I wish they had not done that because then it isn't funny anymore. That's when you know they are inoculating, as a PP mentioned. It's a tricky, tricky world out there.

Then we get the battle of the conscience...do I allow myself to be entertained by this 90% good and try to ignore the 5% bad or do I give it up altogether? When it comes to how great that 90% is, it's a tough question to answer. But then I look at the 5% that I'm supporting and I know what I have to do.  :cry:

Yes, you know what you have to do.

The show that gets broadcast is an entire show. It has to be treated as a whole. If part of it is bad (potentially sinful to view- even possibly mortally sinful) then the show is bad.

It does seem to be a bit of a motif here!

It seems to be a bit of a seasonal thing.  It happens from time to time, in various ways and degrees.  So be it.  I say, "Move on," as there are more interesting things to talk about.

Yo Scorp,

Before you showed up at this thread I was starting to think to myself, "This must be what it feels like to be scipio."

I think I should maybe leave CI before I end up agreeing with you all the time.

 

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Quote from: Belloc

Thanks for trying to correct the pothead, for we who have faith in Christ ARE THE TRUE JEWS!!!!

Belloc is in defiance of Pope Leo XIII who says that ' Catholics are the True Romans'.

The Forum should take note that i would not even have brought this up but for Belloc's absurd comments re: St Luke and Fr Torquemada being Judaics.

Ever since the Old Covenant was abolished by Christ when He instituted the New Covenant; the Chosen People have been Catholics.

In light of the New Covenant,  the true Chosen Race consists of Catholics - members of the Mystical Body Of Christ, outside of which there is no salvation.

I am a true Catholic, not a true Jew. Maybe the terminology: Catholics are true Jews has been used loosely and figuratively by some Catholic authorities, but I have never seen it. It would certaimly require an explanation of exactly what is meant by it.

Belloc, do you have any support for it?

yeah, its called a book by the name Galatians, that we in Christ are the true seed of Abraham, not those running around claiming some bloodline to the Jews 1st C...We are teh children of a promise and as Christ was the King of Israel and in the line of David, King of Israel, there ya go....

Jews are not by blood, but by the Covenant with God, a forshadow in the OT and now, complete and everlasting in the New Covenant....it was never about geography, bloodlines, ethnic pride,etc.....thew Jews of OT were united by Covenant....

Roscoe is equating and playing w/terms as to Jews then and Jews now, not the same!!! Whether Luke was a Jew in 1st C standards or not, who really cares! He was unitd in Christ by the NC and hence, is part of Israel, the Lords portion (1)


and no, not "all are Romans", for Rome was not in the Old Covenant and not the Lords portion...also, the Eastern Rite is united w/Rome, but not Romans..


(1).Ecclesiasticus :  [14] Over every nation he set a ruler. [15] And Israel was made the manifest portion of God.

God divided up the nations into 70 and Christ was appointed the ruler of Israel, unlike hte other 69 that had Angelic beings over them (think, Angel of Portugal!)

If we look at OT prophecies about hte nations coming to Christ and people there becoming priests, plus Galatians, plus the firs few chapters of Apocalypse, we see that we Catholics are ruled by Christ, we are his portion-his bride and Church and those outside are not...

SOoooooo, if the term "jews" is so offense and we wil ljsut throw in the towel and leave it to racists that likely have little to no bloodline to Christ and those of the 1C, fine.....I find it gauls "jews" to say that I, as a child of the New Covenant are the real jew! The real son of Abraham...

Also, of note, Catholcis are forbidden to hate jews due to their race and it would seem Roscoe, in between smoking  :smoke-pot: is perhaps letting his hatred show.....

as for Fr Torquemada, I did not bring him up this time, do not think, though have in the past, as his family, part of it, were "jews"-those тαℓмυdics clinging to OT-but honestly converted and lived far more Catholic lives then most today (alos, Eith Stein,etc)....is Roscoe now joining in the bashing that CM/Raoul gave us several months ago, laughing at the nose of Pius XI, etc...I think "hawk nose" is the term, something similar

In conclusion, we are nto "judics", whatever the hell that means- maybe тαℓмυdists?-but Judic is not the same as jew...

Perhaps the pot has truly now affected him brain, ti can ya know!

I am much too busy today to dredge up copious links, etc and statements, but consider this:

Pius XI:

 "Mark well that in the Catholic Mass, Abraham is our Patriarch and forefather. Anti-Semitism is incompatible with the lofty thought which that fact expresses. It is a movement with which we Christians can have nothing to do. No, no, I say to you it is impossible for a Christian to take part in anti-Semitism. It is inadmissible. Through Christ and in Christ we are the spiritual progeny of Abraham. Spiritually, we [Christians] are all Semites"

Could be right. so. can anyone offer a alternative statement that is theologically true??


FYI-for the record, no known "Jєωιѕн" blood in my family, on either side and I do reject тαℓмυdic judiasm....accepting the New Covenant as the one and only binding means of salvation in Christ.....

FYI-for the record, no known "Jєωιѕн" blood in my family, on either side and I do reject тαℓмυdic judiasm....accepting the New Covenant as the one and only binding means of salvation in Christ.....

FYI, same with me and I did not presume any differently with you. :cheers:

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You know very well that's different. Movies, for instance, that are based on the life of Our Lord are supposed to have immoral characters. I'm talking about things that are intended to promote immorality. The Office is clearly promoting the gαy movement by having an openly gαy character on that show. Let me give you a small list of tv shows that promote immorality. And remember, this is only a small list. There's lots of other bad tv shows out there as well.

The Office
The Simpsons
The Kardashians
Modern Family
Family Guy
The Bachelor
Avatar (cartoon series, movies are bad too)
House
Desperate Housewives

All of these and many other tv shows should be avoided. I gaurantee you that if you were to ask God if He was ok with these shows, He would say "No" to everyone one of them.

Yes, unfortunately a list of the modern tv shows and movies that are suitable would be a very short list indeed.

The Office does not belong in this list. This is like a "pick out the obvious misfit" list. The other shows listed I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. The Office fits more into a list of Everybody Loves Raymond, or King of Queens or (I'm not even sure what else is out there). It is certainly a lesser evil and although a Catholic would take issue with an episode here or there, the whole thing isn't bad. There's a lot of good, human, down-to-earth humor. That's why The Office is so popular, because it is so different from that list. The gαy thing has been front and center in maybe 3 episodes in 6 years. In fact I want to say 2 for sure, I'm adding a third just in case. I personally have difficulty supporting it but my conscience is a little pricklier, it always has been. I can easily see how a mature Catholic would be able to take the good and leave the bad in this case.

Everybody Loves Raymond and King of Queens contain smut. Not always. But regularly. Everybody Loves Raymond contains blasphemy too, and ridicule of Catholicism.