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« on: September 24, 2011, 09:02:40 AM »
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  •  I went ahead and listed the councils of the church. My information is from the very well trusted Wikipedia **cough**, so please feel free to correct. I listed a few things the council achieved, but in no great detail. If there are inaccuracies, please correct me, as I'm too ignorant to know. Anyways, I thought it would be fun to leave the last, and our favorite council, blank. This is a fill in the blank game!



    First Council of Nicaea(325)
    Main article: First Council of Nicaea
    Formulated the original Nicene Creed.
    Defined the equality of God Father and Christ, his son.
    Repudiated Arianism.

    The First Council of Constantinople (381)
    Defined in four canons the Nicene Creed.
    Defined the divinity of the Holy Spirit.

    First Council of Ephesus (431)
    The Council of Ephesus proclaimed the Virgin Mary as the Theotokos (Greek Η Θεοτόκος, "Mother of God").
    Rejected Nestorianism.

    Council of Chalcedon (451)
    Defined the two natures (divine and human) of Jesus Christ.

    Second Council of Constantinople (553)
    The Council again dealt with the issue of the two natures of Christ, as monophysitism had spread through Christianity despite the decisions of Chalcedon.
    Condemned "Three Chapters" of Nestorian writings.

    Third Council of Constantinople (681)
    Repudiated Monothelitism (again).

    Second Council of Nicaea (787)
    Restored of the veneration of icons using the Bible and tradition of the Church. Pictures of Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Saints were used to stimulate piety and imitation.

    Fourth Council of Constantinople (869)
    Condemned Photius, who questioned the legality of the papal delegates presiding over the Council.

    First Council of the Lateran (1123)
    Declared the pope alone appoints bishops as spiritual head while the emperor maintains a right to give secular offices and honors. Pope Calixtus invoked the council to ratify this historic agreement.


    Second Council of the Lateran (1139)
    The Council deposed the antipope Antipope Anacletus II (who was called the Pope of the Ghetto, in light of his Jєωιѕн origins).
    Issued important decisions regarding the celibacy of Catholic priests, clerical marriages of priests and monks, which up to 1139 were considered illegal, were defined as declared non-existing and invalid.

    Third Council of the Lateran (1179)
    Established the two-third majority necessary for the election of a pope
    Outlawed simony, and the elevation to Episcopal offices for anyone under thirty.
    Ruled it illegal to sell arms or goods which could assist armaments to Muslim powers.
    Saracens and Jєωs forbidden from keeping Christian slaves
    Cathedrals were to appoint teachers for indigent and low-income children.
    Catharism was condemned as a heresy.

    Fourth Council of the Lateran (1215)
    Mandated every Christian to go at least once a year on Easter to confession and to receive the Holy Eucharist.
    Formally repeated Catholic teaching, that Christ is present in the Eucharist and thus clarified transubstantiation.
    Dealt with several heresies without naming names but intended to include the Catharists and several individual Catholic theologians.

    First Council of Lyon (1245)
    Deposed Frederick II, as German king and as emperor. Frederick was accused of heresy, treason and arresting a ship with about 100 prelates willing to attend a meeting with the Pope.

    Second Council of Lyon (1275)
    Pope Gregory X defined three aims for the council: aid to Jerusalem, union with the Greek Orthodox Church and reform of the Catholic Church. The council achieved a short-lived unity with the Greek representatives, who were denounced for this back home by the hierarchy and the emperor. Papal conclaves were regulated in Ubi periculum, w
    Franciscan Dominican and other orders had become controversial in light of their increasing popularity. The Council confirmed their privileges.

    Council of Vienne (1312)
    Addressed:
    Order of Knights Templar- Pope Clement had asked the bishops to list all their problems with the order. The Templars had become an obstacle to many bishops because they could act independently of them in such vital areas as filling parishes and other positions. Many accusations against the order were not accepted as the Pope ruled that confessions under torture were inadmissible. He withdrew canonical support for the order but refused to turn over its properties to the French king.
    The regaining of the Holy Land
    A reform of public morality and freedom for the Church.
    The Council fathers discussed another crusade, but were convinced instead by Raimundus Lullus that knowledge of foreign languages is the only way to Christianize Muslims and Jєωs.

    Council of Constance (1418)
    At the beginning of the Council there was the great schism, with three popes, each claiming legitimacy. One of them, Antipope John XXIII, called for the Council to take place in Konstance, Germany, hoping to get additional legitimation from the council. When public opinion moved against him in March 1415, he fled to Schaffhausen.
    The Council of Constance was one of the longest lasting in Church history.


    Council of Florence (1442)
    Issued several decrees on Church reform.

    Fifth Council of the Lateran (1517)
    Issued a dogma that the soul of a human being lives forever.
    Condemned heresies stating the opposite

    Council of Trent (1565)
    The council issued condemnations on what it defined as Protestant heresies and defined Church teachings in the areas of Scripture and Tradition, Original Sin, Justification, Sacraments, the Eucharist in Holy Mass and the veneration of saints.
    The Council entrusted to the Pope the implementation of its work, as a result of which Pope Pius V issued in 1566 the Roman Catechism, in 1568 a revised Roman Breviary, and in 1570 a revised Roman Missal,
    The Council of Trent is considered one of the most successful councils in the history of the Catholic Church.
    It defined Church beliefs until today.

    First Vatican Council (1870)
    Issued definitions of the Catholic faith, the papacy and the infallibility of the Pope.

    Second Vatican Council
    The Second Vatican Council was invoked by Pope John XXIII. It met from 1962 to 1965.... It:


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    « Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 09:42:12 AM »
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  • ...will ultimately go down in history as another Robber Council, but will be considered far worse then the earlier one, because a new religion was promulgated at V2, under the guise of Catholicism.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 10:03:12 AM »
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  • ...is a heretical council and an apostasy that did nothing but create a Freemasonic new "Mass" and bring the Church into an all-time crisis.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 11:01:08 AM »
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  • .. is an abomination and is not a valid council.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra

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    « Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 11:02:34 AM »
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  • was nothing but a robber council, promulgated by the official hierarchy of the Church. On account of the manifest heresy taught and proclaimed, and on account of the takeover of the Vatican by heretics, the Church experienced an unparalleled apostasy, unseen since the days of the Protestant Revolt. For the first time, the Papal See was vacant for over 50 years.

    However a new ecuмenical council was called 60 years after the council by +williamson after he was elected Pope, and it...

    'Take care not to resemble the multitude whose knowledge of God's will only condemns them to more severe punishment.'

    -St. John of Avila


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    « Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 05:42:42 PM »
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    Second Vatican Council
    The Second Vatican Council was invoked by Pope John XXIII. It met from 1962 to 1965.... It:


    ...Defined Religious Indifferentism ("Ecuмenism") and Collegiality as dogmas, repudiated Catholicism but did not anathematize anyone or anything thus fooling the vast majority of Catholics into believing that most bishops had defected.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 08:57:46 PM »
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  • was actually the first council convoked by an anti-pope in an already heretically-soaked hierarchy. Vatican II will forever remain in infamy as one of the darkest periods of the Church wherein many glorious saints achieved martyrdom amidst oceans of atheists and pagans.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 10:34:37 PM »
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  • became the source of great hue and cry on traditionalist message boards.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #8 on: September 24, 2011, 10:35:38 PM »
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    was actually the first council convoked by an anti-pope in an already heretically-soaked hierarchy. Vatican II will forever remain in infamy as one of the darkest periods of the Church wherein many glorious saints achieved martyrdom amidst oceans of atheists and pagans.


    And the darkest day was the day PVI discarded the Tiara.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 25, 2011, 06:23:24 PM »
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    was actually the first council convoked by an anti-pope in an already heretically-soaked hierarchy. Vatican II will forever remain in infamy as one of the darkest periods of the Church wherein many glorious saints achieved martyrdom amidst oceans of atheists and pagans.


    And the darkest day was the day PVI discarded the Tiara.


    That was one of most visibly external actions done by a papal claimant to trash Tradition , indeed.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 25, 2011, 06:35:20 PM »
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  • ...put the Faith in the language of modern man and explained it in terms he could understand. It also better adapted the Faith to the modern world so it might be more easily accepted by those who were put off by the previous condemnatory methods. It emphasized the positive in other religious and in man in general inspiring a Gospel of Hope later emphsized by JPII and leading to the new evangelization.

    Unfortunately those with their own agenda misinterpreted the Council docuмents and disobeyed liturgical rules mainly in the West. However, in places like Poland and Africa the implemenation of VCII went quite well. VCII was a new pentecost for the Church, opening the windows of the Church wide to the modern world instead of the closed ghetto it had once been.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 25, 2011, 06:38:38 PM »
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  • is the council warned about in the repressed third secret of Fatima and has ushered in what Our Lady of at LaSellete warned namely that Rome would loose the faith and become the seat of the anti Christ. Ultimatly it will be repudiated as a false council when a true Pope is elected.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 25, 2011, 08:13:13 PM »
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    ...put the Faith in the language of modern man and explained it in terms he could understand. It also better adapted the Faith to the modern world so it might be more easily accepted by those who were put off by the previous condemnatory methods. It emphasized the positive in other religious and in man in general inspiring a Gospel of Hope later emphsized by JPII and leading to the new evangelization.

    Unfortunately those with their own agenda misinterpreted the Council docuмents and disobeyed liturgical rules mainly in the West. However, in places like Poland and Africa the implemenation of VCII went quite well. VCII was a new pentecost for the Church, opening the windows of the Church wide to the modern world instead of the closed ghetto it had once been.


    That is ridiculous. I wouldn't mind you posting here if you posted to learn the truth, or at the very least discuss and debate in a mature manner. Instead you preach to us that we must accept Vatican II and that there is nothing wrong with such a heretical council. This just isn't the forum for you, Santo. You aren't anywhere near Traditional enough to post here. I suggest you post on "Catholic" Answers, the modernists over there would welcome you with open arms.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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  • ...was a cesspool of Modernist/liberal filth overseen by heretics who invited the enemies of the Church to draft "services" and "memorial meals" under the banner of damnable ecuмenism. It was a sham and an obvious attempt to usurp the authority of the men who ruled in Christ's name and promulgated DECREES IN PERPETUITY that cannot legally, morally or ethically be rescinded.
    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar

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    « Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 08:32:36 AM »
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    Second Vatican Council
    The Second Vatican Council was invoked by Pope John XXIII. It met from 1962 to 1965.... It:

    ... will be erased soon.

    The old and prophetic poem of the Lime Tree doesn't even count the Vaticanum II as council (which would be number 21), because it mentions a glorious 21st council to be held shortly after World War III and the Three Dark Days.

    Of course nobody need to believe in such prophecies.
    Still Bishop Williamson and Bishop Tissier also say that Vaticanum II will be erased. :-)  The latter said there would be a "tabula rasa" with Vaticanum II.