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Offline Ladislaus

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Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
« on: September 22, 2021, 05:48:30 AM »
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  • "Feeneyism", aka soteriology and ecclesiology, are THE pivotal theological issues behind all of Vatican II.  Every error in Vatican II goes back to the V2 ecclesiology ... and Traditional Catholics are prevented from discussing ecclesiology openly?

    Globe Earth is in fact the greatest deception of the Masons / Illuminati / Jєωs ... and we're not allowed to talk about it ... openly. 

    Buried in the ghetto, these topics get no visibility and exposure to people who should in fact be exposed to them.  It took me years of research, study, and reflection to shed this programming.  It took me hours to realize that 9/11 was an inside job, about a year to come to terms with the fake moon landing ... and despite being aware of these other government deceptions, several years to come to the conclusion that the earth is in fact a flat plane, enclosed by a firmament, that is motionless at the center of creation.

    These two issues are the greatest errors/deceptions of our day, and they need to be exposed.


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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #1 on: September 22, 2021, 06:14:23 AM »
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #2 on: September 22, 2021, 06:16:59 AM »
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  • The Ghetto is for whacko subjects, and both Feeneyism and Flatheadism are perfectly placed there.

    However, if Lad could walk to the edge of the flat earth and take a pic of it falling off into the abyss, I’d be happy to change my mind.
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #3 on: September 22, 2021, 06:26:35 AM »
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  • Lad, can you name any Church authorities or theologians who support the flat Earth theory?
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #4 on: September 22, 2021, 06:41:51 AM »
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  • Lad, can you name any Church authorities or theologians who support the flat Earth theory?

    This is a scientific issue, not a theological one (per se).  That's like asking:  "Can you name any Church authorities who teach that the US moon landing was faked?"

    Now, the Church Fathers generally held the earth to be flat, but the argument made against that by those who hold that it's a globe is based on appeal to Leo XIII (the same appeal that Fr. Robinson makes regarding other issues)  There's no actual explicit Magisterial teaching that the earth is a globe either.  So, apart from the Church Fathers, this is more a scientific issue than a theological one.

    Just as 9/11 was an inside job, and the h0Ɩ0cαųst was fake, and the moon landing was fake ... this falls into the same category, but it is even a more grand deception.  Even people who realize the above about this other fakery hold steadfastly to the fact that the earth is a globe.  I'm not going to get into the arguments here because Flat Earth discussion has been banished from the main forum.  My basic point is:  If it's OK to discuss the h0Ɩ0h0αx, the fake moon landing, 9/11 being an inside job ... why exactly is it no OK to question globe earth?


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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #5 on: September 22, 2021, 06:45:10 AM »
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  • The Ghetto is for whacko subjects, and both Feeneyism and Flatheadism are perfectly placed there.

    However, if Lad could walk to the edge of the flat earth and take a pic of it falling off into the abyss, I’d be happy to change my mind.

    Yeah, see, you've been totally brainwashed about Flat Earth ... using an incredibly effective conditioning process, to the point that you won't even examine the question but resort to attacks and ad hominems.  Your reaction is case-and-point about how effective their propaganda and their psychological conditioning has been.

    Trust me.  I am well aware of the ridicule to which I will be subjected for promoting the evidence that the earth is flat.  But I don't care, because this is the greatest deception of our time.  Depending on which crowd you say it to, if, say, you talk about the h0Ɩ0cαųst being fake, you'll be met with contempt.  Similarly with 9/11.

    Feeneyism is not whacko by any stretch when the majority of Church Fathers were "Feeneyites" (in a bit of an anachronism).  Lots people hold that YOU are a whacko for questioning the jab or the h0Ɩ0cαųst or 9/11.

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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #6 on: September 22, 2021, 07:12:29 AM »
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  • Yeah, see, you've been totally brainwashed about Flat Earth ... using an incredibly effective conditioning process, to the point that you won't even examine the question but resort to attacks and ad hominems.  Your reaction is case-and-point about how effective their propaganda and their psychological conditioning has been.

    Trust me.  I am well aware of the ridicule to which I will be subjected for promoting the evidence that the earth is flat.  But I don't care, because this is the greatest deception of our time.  Depending on which crowd you say it to, if, say, you talk about the h0Ɩ0cαųst being fake, you'll be met with contempt.  Similarly with 9/11.

    Feeneyism is not whacko by any stretch when the majority of Church Fathers were "Feeneyites" (in a bit of an anachronism).  Lots people hold that YOU are a whacko for questioning the jab or the h0Ɩ0cαųst or 9/11.

    Lad-

    Why not just settle the matter:

    Go to the edge of the Earth, and take a pic of it falling off into the abyss, and post it???
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #7 on: September 22, 2021, 07:23:13 AM »
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  • I want to be controversial here and say the earth is not flat. :jester:

    Yet if a person can avoid radical postures, I think the so called Feeneyism should not be left in a sort of 'funny farm.' Fr Feeney's persecution at the behest of Bobby Kennedy, through the efforts of Cardinal Cushing (he of the zanziest Latin pronunciation possible), was a sort of late 'canary in the mine.'


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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #8 on: September 22, 2021, 08:20:34 AM »
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  • In debunking the Apollo 11 moon landing, the following is something that has to be dealt with:

    https://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11

    Or was this man just another paid shill who made the whole thing up, and some mean men took him into a dark room and told him that if he ever spoke otherwise, horrible things would happen to him, his wife, and his family??

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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #9 on: September 22, 2021, 09:21:49 AM »
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  • While I think those other topics are normal (though normies think they are all crazy, except for Feeneyism. That makes sense even if it is wrong), I do think flat earth is wacko. And I don't really think we went to the moon. But flat earth is just too far. Perhaps I didn't shed that part of my brainwashing.
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #10 on: September 22, 2021, 09:36:10 AM »
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  • Globe Earth is in fact the greatest deception of the Masons / Illuminati / Jєωs ... and we're not allowed to talk about it ... openly. 

    and despite being aware of these other government deceptions, several years to come to the conclusion that the earth is in fact a flat plane, enclosed by a firmament, that is motionless at the center of creation.

    But you can talk about it openly - in a subforum.

    What are your postulates? What is your thinking process? How do you evaluate evidence? How do you come to conclusions? 

    Those are just rhetorical questions. But I think, if you were consistent with the principles of your skeptical approach to "globe earth" and non-geocentric cosmology, you would probably need to reject the natural motives of credibility for the Catholic faith.


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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #11 on: September 22, 2021, 09:37:14 AM »
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  • As I've said before, flat earth seems to be a good tool to criticize the official narrative of scientism, but, I'm skeptical on it's merit. There's interesting things pointed out by them for sure, but, what I've watched on the subject so far seems to lean more to appeals to emotion, such as "screw the Establishment and the Narrative!" (Like that "docuмentary" called "Level"), than trying to disprove their own scientific model.

    It doesn't really seem to hinge on Catholic teaching either, as Creationism does, so I personally don't see why it needs to be on the front page.
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #12 on: September 22, 2021, 09:37:49 AM »
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  • I'll tell you my motivation right here and now, openly:

    A few years ago, I was told by Bp. Zendejas that various Trads in his travels thought I was "Feeneyite and/or Sedevacantist" because of my forum, and the topics discussed there.
    That is simply not accurate, so it bothers me.

    About that time I created that "interview with the moderator" which was more of a self-interview. I don't think I created the "ghetto" for Feeneyism at that time, BUT I do remember renaming it -- so there would be no question about my own opinion of the matter. I want people to think I've made a place for people to discuss it, but I'm not into it myself. That's what CathInfo is all about after all -- discussion.

    But you can't make everyone happy. For every Ladislaus who wants those topics to be visible all over the "Recent Topics" listing, and found in every sub-forum, there are about 100 members who don't want to see those topics AT ALL. So I have to TRY to keep everyone happy. Keeping those topics in a "ghetto" was a compromise. The alternative was to FORBID ALL DISCUSSION OF THE TOPIC.

    Why? Because the third "option", letting the topic be discussed everywhere, was out of the question. I'd rather lose 1 member than 100. Or 2 members than 300. I was getting more than single digit complaints about that topic seeming to "take over the forum". The few fervent proponents and authors on that topic tended to post a LOT.

    Feeneyites are often specifically banned from chapels, forums. They tend to be apostles; they need to convert everyone to their position. They post a lot.
    Sedevacantists are often specifically banned from chapels, forums. They tend to be apostles; they need to convert everyone to their position. They post a lot.

    Guess what two topics have their own dedicated sub-forum on CathInfo?

    And, as I said about Sedevacantism many times, I don't want to suffer the slightest inconvenience, much less serious damage, for the sake of a position I DON'T EVEN HOLD AND/OR CARE ABOUT. The OPPOSITE of a hill I'm willing to die on.

    If 10 people were upset that I allow discussion of "cօռspιʀαcιҽs" on CathInfo, I'd say "Waaaah waaaah, too bad! There's the door if you don't like it." 10 people, 100 people, I don't care. It's my forum. This forum is for discussion of the truth, and I am firmly convinced about the truth of (((certain people))) working evil plans on this world for centuries. For me, it's a no-brainer that at various times, 2+ evil men get together in secret to work out plans -- plans which they don't advertise to the public. That's all a conspiracy is.

    I even allow discussion of topics I'm not expert on, don't care about, or even disagree with (if it's not a clear-cut error). When in doubt, free speech is the order of the day. However, I won't inconvenience myself for such topics -- much less risk lawsuits, lose significant number of members, etc.
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #13 on: September 22, 2021, 09:41:03 AM »
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  • It took me hours to realize that 9/11 was an inside job, about a year to come to terms with the fake moon landing ... and despite being aware of these other government deceptions, several years to come to the conclusion that the earth is in fact a flat plane, enclosed by a firmament, that is motionless at the center of creation.


    I agree with you on 9/11 and the faked moon landings.

    I believe the earth is motionless at the center of the universe -- but I believe it's a globe. I don't think flat earth is a heresy, and I don't need to call names. But I just haven't been convinced yet, let's put it that way.
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    Re: Feeneyism and Flat Earth need to be released from the "ghetto"
    « Reply #14 on: September 22, 2021, 09:54:16 AM »
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  • In conclusion:

    I am willing to do anything to defend the truth. But when it comes to positions I disagree with in disputed areas, the most you're going to get out of me is a TOLERANCE to discuss them here.

    If the government came up to each person and demanded a renouncement of sedevacantism OR a $1 fine, I'm going with the renouncement. If I have to step on a picture of an empty chair OR get fined $1, I'm going to avoid the fine. BECAUSE I AM NOT SEDEVACANTIST. GET IT? I don't care AT ALL about the cause. I'd talk bad about, diss, or renounce the position in any way to avoid the SLIGHTEST of inconveniences.

    And here's the good part: each and every one of you would do the same. PLEASE don't attempt to claim otherwise. How much would you be willing to "suffer" for wokeness? For Critical Race Theory? For the Democratic Party? For the Recognize and Resist position (if you're sedevacantist)? I'm sure the answer is zero. Be honest and admit it.

    I'm not saying Sedevacantism, Feeneyism, or Flat Earth are proven errors like Critical Race Theory or Communism, which is why I allow discussion of the former topics, but forbid errors such as the latter. But that doesn't mean I'm going to suffer the least personal inconvenience to defend ANY of them.

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