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Author Topic: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?  (Read 15554 times)

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #130 on: February 10, 2022, 12:38:44 PM »
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From the Syllabus #22, we are not bound to any new teachings, we are bound "to those things *only* which are proposed to universal belief as dogmas of faith by the infallible judgment of the Church."

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Are you using the condemned proposition from #22 to support your position? Could you clarify for the reader ?

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #131 on: February 10, 2022, 12:48:22 PM »
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From the Syllabus #22, we are not bound to any new teachings, we are bound "to those things *only* which are proposed to universal belief as dogmas of faith by the infallible judgment of the Church."

Are you using the condemned proposition from #22 to support your position? Could you clarify for the reader ?
You know what, yes, I guess I was, mea culpa. Thanks for pointing that out to me, I thought something was wrong with that, at any rate, I meant we are not bound to new doctrines, which the NO is full of and which apparently, the sedes insist that R&R obey to prove that we believe he is the pope.

Either way, the false accusations will never end, which is why I said "If you ever want to get off the hamster wheel - then inform R&R of those authoritative and uniquely conciliar teachings which we can obey."


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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #132 on: February 10, 2022, 03:37:29 PM »
Either way, the false accusations will never end, which is why I said "If you ever want to get off the hamster wheel - then inform R&R of those authoritative and uniquely conciliar teachings which we can obey."

Well said. 

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #133 on: February 10, 2022, 03:43:16 PM »
The sedevacantists will always accuse us of not obeying the Pope, even though they don't believe Francis is the Pope.

After all, why should they care what we believe? Is it because they will feel better if all trads think that same way that they do? Then, perhaps, they will feel better about the choice they have made, and maybe will feel more normal. Or is it because they want the Sede ideology to control all of Tradition and all Trads?

Either way, it's a very immature thing to do.....to accuse us, who just want to remain good Catholics....because we don't believe that there's no pope and no hierarchy and no visible Church. If only we would believe this, then they will let us alone. But they are ever restless and never happy, because they know deep down that they are wrong. Maybe what they are looking for is peace, but it cannot be found in constantly accusing us of not believing as they do.

If they want to believe that there's no Pope, that's fine, but leave us alone already!

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #134 on: February 10, 2022, 04:18:12 PM »
The sedevacantists will always accuse us of not obeying the Pope, even though they don't believe Francis is the Pope.
Because you profess him to be the Pope, with the full Petrine authority, therefore, we expect you to practice what you profess. We don't believe he is, therefore, when we see others absolutely insisting that he must be Pope, not even just materially, but formally, then it's an error that needs to be addressed.