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Author Topic: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?  (Read 15515 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2022, 12:36:12 PM »
Quote from: Stubborn on February 05, 2022, 10:17:36 AM
I would like to know what exactly sedes disagree with re +ABL's reasoning...

As I indicated above, you falsely appropriate Archbishop Lefebvre as a proponent of your position.  While the Archbishop never took the step of publicly declaring the See vacant, deferring to the Church's final decision, he clearly agreed that the papacy is protected by the Holy Spirit from this degree of destruction.  He speculated about how this could have happened, given that premise and opts not to make a definitive conclusion, although he repeatedly stated that it's quite possible that the See is vacant.  You on the other hand reject the premise entirely and try to co-opt Archbishop Lefebvre as a dogmatic R&R.

It's no different than when the BoDers co-opt the Church Doctors who believed in BoD as if they were defenders of their position that infidels could be saved.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2022, 12:53:24 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on February 05, 2022, 12:31:52 PM
Stop this nonsesne.  It isn't theologians of the last few centuries.  This is the universal teaching of the Church from the beginning, from the Church Fathers, from Popes, Doctors of the Church, etc.  Your ecclesiology is decidedly in lockstep with that of the Prots and Old Catholics.
Once we get an orthodox Pope, I have a suspicion that the R&R attitude will remain, obedience goes down the tubes once the Pope says or does something they don't like. Same with some sedes,  as soon as he says something they think is heresy, he's not the Pope.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2022, 01:06:11 PM »
Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 05, 2022, 12:53:24 PM
Once we get an orthodox Pope, I have a suspicion that the R&R attitude will remain, obedience goes down the tubes once the Pope says or does something they don't like. Same with some sedes,  as soon as he says something they think is heresy, he's not the Pope.
They sure have done a number on us, haven't they?
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2022, 01:13:28 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on February 05, 2022, 01:06:11 PM
They sure have done a number on us, haven't they?
They really have. I suspect that it may lead to a neo-Pharaism once the Church has been restored leading up to the Last Days, much like the Jєωιѕн Church after the captivity and the time of the Greek occupation before the Incarnation. 
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2022, 01:19:20 PM »
Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 05, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
They gave clear answers, as they have done every single time this debate starts up again.
Not so.

I want to know exactly what +ABL said, (which he essentially referenced St. Thomas' principle that we can disobey the pope only when the faith is in question) - that he disagrees with, instead, as per usual, Lad gave the sede version of why +ABL agrees with sedes.

What's worse, that, or that you say they gave clear answers every time? I'm not sure. 
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