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Offline Meg

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #180 on: March 01, 2022, 12:39:43 AM »
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  • Meg, you are correct that one Pope's Motu Proprio can be abrogated, in whole or in part, by a future Pope. The Motu Proprio is similar to a regulatory rule. Traditionally it was understood to apply to the regulation of matters in the Papal States. Post Vatican-II it has been used as the vehicle of choice for various rules which the Vatican-II Popes understood would be modified by their successors. So the expectation of a future modification was built-in by using the form of the motu proprio. This was to get the laity into the dialectical back-and-forth that we see with the post Vatican-II era. Two steps forward and one step back. And on and on.

    However, the Pope is NEVER above the canon law. Canon Law contains three elements: natural law, divine law, and human law. The Pope is always bound by natural law and divine law. He cannot legitimately change canons that reflect natural or divine law. He can, however, change, using proper legislative procedures, any human law in Canon Law. But until he officially changes the law, he is bound by the current law.

    And some statements by previous Popes cannot be changed legitimately by their successors. These statements touch on infallibility when the Pope in question explicitly invokes his Apostolic Authority and binds the Universal Church in perpetuity on matters of Faith and Morals.

    Finally, a Pope can never promulgate an unjust or unreasonable dictate that has the binding force of law. Paraphrasing St. Thomas Aquinas, "an unjust law is no law at all." See Article 4 on this page of the Summa Theologiae:

    https://www.newadvent.org/summa/2096.htm

    I don't agree that the Pope is not above canon law. He cannot be judged, by any human agency. Sadly, the Modernists know this, and have taken advantage of it. 

    You've a right to your opinion, of course. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
    « Reply #181 on: March 01, 2022, 01:35:35 PM »
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  • Christ said, "You will know them my their fruits".  We may judge what we see, outwardly, just as we judge the New Order counterfeit, and say NO.