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Author Topic: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?  (Read 15538 times)

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Offline Meg

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #155 on: February 26, 2022, 07:09:49 PM »
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 26, 2022, 01:52:56 PM
Meg.
A person  who believes that all men are saved; or that people who are living together in sin can be in the state of grace (just to take two examples), certainly doesn't hold what the Catholic Church teaches and believes in.

The Church has been occupied by Modernists for awhile now. Were you not aware of that? 
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Offline Michael Wilson

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #156 on: February 27, 2022, 10:13:13 AM »
Quote from: Meg on February 26, 2022, 07:09:49 PM
The Church has been occupied by Modernists for awhile now. Were you not aware of that?
"Modernists" then are not Catholic, correct? It is clear that if one holds that "all men are saved" or that "all religions are willed by God", then one holds to doctrines that are not compatible with the Catholic faith.
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Offline Meg

Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #157 on: February 27, 2022, 10:20:04 AM »
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 27, 2022, 10:13:13 AM
"Modernists" then are not Catholic, correct? It is clear that if one holds that "all men are saved" or that "all religions are willed by God", then one holds to doctrines that are not compatible with the Catholic faith.

What did Pope Pius X say about Modernism? Did he say that all Modernists are not at all Catholic, and that they were automatically out of the Church, and that the Catholic Church would eventually defect? He knew that Modernism had infiltrated the Catholic Church. But he did not see the situation like sedevacantists do. 
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #158 on: February 27, 2022, 10:52:58 AM »
Quote from: Meg on February 27, 2022, 10:20:04 AM
What did Pope Pius X say about Modernism? Did he say that all Modernists are not at all Catholic, and that they were automatically out of the Church, and that the Catholic Church would eventually defect? He knew that Modernism had infiltrated the Catholic Church. But he did not see the situation like sedevacantists do.

St. Pius X "did not see the situation" AT ALL because he died decades before V2 and the utter insanity that has followed.  Such a claim is not only groundless, it is meaningless.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Feb 2nd 2022, The Day RnR Admit Antipope Francis is Not in the Church?
« Reply #159 on: February 27, 2022, 11:13:31 AM »
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 19, 2022, 05:40:43 PM
Msgr. Lefebvre goes from affirming that the Pope can be heretical as "a private doctor or theologian", to treating of "to what extent Pope Paul VI willed to engage his infallibility....". But this is a jump from one subject to another;

It's setting up a false dichitomy, without a middle ground.  If the Pope is not engaging infallibility, then he's teaching as a private doctor.  With all due respect to Archbishop Lefebvre, that's utterly absurd.  When a Pope issues an encyclical to the Universal Church, he is not acting / teaching as a private doctor, but as the teacher of all the faithful, even if he's not engaging infallibility.
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