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Roman Catholic · « **Reply #75 on:** October 29, 2010, 07:54:51 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

many Popes failed to act or, act decisvley against heresies, abuses ,etc....

there are too many ambigous and contradicting statements from these people to fully convict them

The recent post-V2 papal pretenders have not just failed to act or, failed to act decisively against heresies and abuses.

They have been the heretics and abusers!

Huge difference.

They are convicted by their own words and actions!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #76 on:** October 29, 2010, 10:38:52 AM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Quote from: Belloc

many Popes failed to act or, act decisvley against heresies, abuses ,etc....

there are too many ambigous and contradicting statements from these people to fully convict them

The recent post-V2 papal pretenders have not just failed to act or, failed to act decisively against heresies and abuses.

They have been the heretics and abusers!

Huge difference.

They are convicted by their own words and actions!

There is not enough proof out there to accuse the Vatican II Popes of being anti-popes because of abuses. Apparently, JPII knew of an abuser yet covered it up. However, we don't know enough about that because the Vatican has done its best to keep that stuff secret. Same thing applies in the case of Benedict XVI. I agree with Belloc. We won't know for sure whether these recent Popes were anti-popes or not until God reveals it to us.

Dawn · « **Reply #77 on:** October 29, 2010, 10:55:56 AM »

Dear God help us. If what they have done is not enough to convince people I really do dread what it will take to prove it for those who continue to bend over backward and make excuses.

Alexandria · « **Reply #78 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:24:24 AM »

Quote from: Dawn

Dear God help us. If what they have done is not enough to convince people I really do dread what it will take to prove it for those who continue to bend over backward and make excuses.

Most of those who bend over backwards to make excuses are young. Check back with them in twenty years (if Our Lord hasn't visited us yet with His Just punishment) and see what they say then.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #79 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:27:55 AM »

Hi Pax et Bonam- too bad I can't do Youtbue anymore. I always love miracles!

XXXOOO

Alexandria · « **Reply #80 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:41:29 AM »

That reminds me, I can't view any videos either.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #81 on:** October 30, 2010, 01:42:17 PM »

Quote from: Dawn

Dear God help us. If what they have done is not enough to convince people I really do dread what it will take to prove it for those who continue to bend over backward and make excuses.

Sedes should not act so disgusted just because someone does not believe a Pope is an anti-pope. You should instead be using that facepalm icon at someone who literally thinks there is NOTHING wrong with Vatican II. I never said nor implied that I did not think abuses were going on in the Church. I said there was not enough proof to label these Vatican II Popes as anti-popes. (Paul VI being an exception, I think there is enough evidence for him, it's just not my place to call him an anti-pope.)

MyrnaM · « **Reply #82 on:** October 30, 2010, 06:17:09 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Quote from: Dawn

Dear God help us. If what they have done is not enough to convince people I really do dread what it will take to prove it for those who continue to bend over backward and make excuses.

Sedes should not act so disgusted just because someone does not believe a Pope is an anti-pope. You should instead be using that facepalm icon at someone who literally thinks there is NOTHING wrong with Vatican II. I never said nor implied that I did not think abuses were going on in the Church. I said there was not enough proof to label these Vatican II Popes as anti-popes. (Paul VI being an exception, I think there is enough evidence for him, it's just not my place to call him an anti-pope.)

I agree SS, they are not anti-popes because an anti-pope has to be anti pope from the True Church, and since Vatican II is not the Church these men are NO pope at all.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #83 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:03:23 PM »

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Quote from: Roman Catholic
Quote from: Belloc

many Popes failed to act or, act decisvley against heresies, abuses ,etc....

there are too many ambigous and contradicting statements from these people to fully convict them

The recent post-V2 papal pretenders have not just failed to act or, failed to act decisively against heresies and abuses.

They have been the heretics and abusers!

Huge difference.

They are convicted by their own words and actions!

There is not enough proof out there to accuse the Vatican II Popes of being anti-popes because of abuses. Apparently, JPII knew of an abuser yet covered it up. However, we don't know enough about that because the Vatican has done its best to keep that stuff secret. Same thing applies in the case of Benedict XVI. I agree with Belloc. We won't know for sure whether these recent Popes were anti-popes or not until God reveals it to us.

I was referring to religious abuses like Assisi and the recent UK visit etc. etc.