Author Topic: FDS: Feeney Derangement Syndrome (Read 3238 times)

Ladislaus · « **on:** June 06, 2026, 12:16:26 PM »

So, one poster after another, mostly SV, block me on X for raising the problem of EENS, for mentioning the fact that nearly all Traditional Catholic clergy believe that non-Catholics can be saved. I'm denounced as "Feeneyite" ... even though I deliberately avoid even making a peep about "Baptism of Desire", demonstrating again that the BoD crusade has nothing to do with the rare case of a catechumen who dies in a car crash on the way to his scheduled Baptism, but about EENS.

AND ... Vatican II is ALL ABOUT EENS. We need a T-shirt that says: "It's EENS, stupid!" akin to that political slogan about the economy. But people have been so infected with FDS, "Feeney Derangement Syndrome", where they consider him a worse heretic than Bergoglio, that they unknowingly embrace the very same heretical ecclesiology that's the foundation for all the Vatican II errors.

Lazarus · « **Reply #1 on:** June 06, 2026, 12:26:36 PM »

Frankly, the quality of debate even among traditionalists is very poor.

I was very disappointed when I saw that many people here do not act different from the Novus ordites insulting people and excommunicating them for disagreeing with them, foregoing any analysis of logical arguments.

It reminds me of wokes who don't care about logical arguments and will simply screech and call you names.

Has all of society been infected with this ridiculous behaviour ?

40494049 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 06, 2026, 03:27:22 PM »

Quote from: Lazarus on June 06, 2026, 12:26:36 PM

Frankly, the quality of debate even among traditionalists is very poor.

I was very disappointed when I saw that many people here do not act different from the Novus ordites insulting people and excommunicating them for disagreeing with them, foregoing any analysis of logical arguments.

It reminds me of wokes who don't care about logical arguments and will simply screech and call you names.

Has all of society been infected with this ridiculous behaviour ?

What is this sort of thinking called? Never focusing on the matter, subject or logic of an argument, but only on the feeling it has and the consensus of people on the matter.

DirigeNos · « **Reply #3 on:** June 06, 2026, 03:57:06 PM »

Why would God be restricted by the matter of His own sacrament? i.e. the physical water in a case where the person was looking after the water/the baptism and they die before they receive it. Or in the case of a martyr. How do you explain how the Holy Innocents are saints on the calendar? Shouldn't they be in the Limbo of Abraham then because water didn't pour over their head? The Church tells us that they are among the saints because they died as witnesses to Christ/directly for Christ.

The attached snapshot is from "My Catholic Faith - A Catechism in Pictures"

I'm not going to be able to debate it with you like a theologian, nor even on your level as you seem very researched on the topic, and have the background in the seminary, but I have an open mind and want to understand. I know there are dozens of threads on this topic here on Cathinfo. I just don't see what holds up the other side of the debate. Outside the church there is no salvation. Not everyone who says Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, yes. Only baptism with water gives the indelible character, yes. But is God without mercy like a puritanical God, and limited by physical water?

DirigeNos · « **Reply #4 on:** June 06, 2026, 04:12:48 PM »

Karl Rahner is wrong by the way. He would conclude all religions can be a path to salvation.

Very funny and clever AI image, I must add.

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Author Topic: FDS: Feeney Derangement Syndrome (Read 3238 times)

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