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Offline roscoe

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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2009, 05:18:30 PM »
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    • You are an expert in evaision--the question asked was about the Sun rev around the Earth, not the Earth as center of the Universe. These are two different questions as far as I understand how INQ dealt with Galileo. THE EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IN A SPIRITUAL SENSE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY RESPECTIVE OF IT'S PHYSICAL LOCATION. This is because Jesus has been here. The above statement by BenXV(15?) WOULD be accurate IF he said that the Earth is not be the center of the Universe in a strictly physical sense.
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    « Reply #46 on: June 17, 2009, 05:24:59 PM »
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    • Why is CM alleging that Ben XV(15?) thinks the Sun rev around Earth?--- 'yep'. The above statement clearly implies that Earth rev around the Sun.
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    « Reply #47 on: June 17, 2009, 07:16:33 PM »
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    • Well maybe not clearly....
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    « Reply #48 on: June 18, 2009, 01:22:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: DeMaistre
    The period of peace was the short period between the Korean and Vietnam conflicts.


    I can only presume this is a serious comment.  Oh well...
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    « Reply #49 on: June 18, 2009, 01:41:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: DeMaistre
    That is because the consecration was done late, and not according to the will of the Blessed Virgin.


    This is not correct.  It would appear you are merely (and unintentionally) circulating one of the myriad canards about this matter.  No harm, no foul.  God speed.
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    « Reply #50 on: June 19, 2009, 01:46:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe
    Why is CM alleging that Ben XV(15?) thinks the Sun rev around Earth?--- 'yep'. The above statement clearly implies that Earth rev around the Sun.


    Sorry.  I read your post backwards.  I thought that's what you meant.
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    « Reply #51 on: June 19, 2009, 02:03:50 AM »
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    • Telesphorus, I was just thinking that after I posted my harangue.  The unadorned communism of Russia was much more militant than our democracies and directly attacked the Church.  It makes sense that Mary would "make a statement" about it.  

    Again, it's just the people who make "consecrating Russia" into their pet cause that bother me.  Mary said Russia would have to be consecrated THEN, not now.  It's too late.  

    That being said, maybe I am crazy, but I kind of prefer when communism shows its true face.  When it comes right out and says "YOU, Catholic Church, and Catholic people, are my enemy."  At least then we know who we're fighting.  We're not just lost in a nebulous fog, punching at shadows.

    If I were living in Poland when the commies took over I'd have been martyred.  Here I'd have been drafted and sent off to die in a Jєωιѕн war, which, unlike martyrdom, may not lead to heaven.
     
    What is so uniquely ominous about America ( Mystery Babylon? the New Egypt at least ) throughout its history, and it hasn't been much different in Europe over the last few centuries, is that while it allows you to be Catholic in theory and in name, it twists the truth around so much, flipping it right upside down, that I'm not sure God will recognize some of these Catholics as Catholics.  

    Of course, communism does the same, with more vicious tactics.  It kills those who speak up and then helps the rest to sell out.  Here you can speak up and you just get ignored or treated as a basement-dwelling loony.  So I guess we do have relative freedom, in a way.  Unfortunately not enough people choose to exercise it correctly.  They buy into all sorts of lies.

    I am talking to Dawn in E-mails and she knows the truth.  Many others on this site do.  The question is, how much truth do you need in order to please God and get into heaven?  What happens to a Catholic kid who is drafted into World War I or II, which I believe God would see as unjust wars?  I don't know why, but this really troubles me.  Luckily, I doubt God sees things as black-and-white as I do.  
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    « Reply #52 on: June 19, 2009, 02:12:11 AM »
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    • Roscoe, are you referring to me when you say you don't like my taste in music?  I don't think I've mentioned my taste in music.  

    I listen to music from France, motets from the time of Louis XIV-Louis XVI and lots of organ music.  Flemish and French polyphony from the Late Middle Ages.  Only Catholic music.  My taste in music is impeccable, sir!  I have nothing else to do but listen to music!
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    « Reply #53 on: June 19, 2009, 02:18:20 AM »
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    • I realize now that I am being very indistinct about the source of my rage on various issues.

    Let me put it this way -- in my sede group most people are Republicans.  They don't understand the Hegelian pincer-hold over both parties.  

    Dawn picked up on that because we've been talking about it.  A lot of these people are into the 'conversion of Russia" because they buy into the hoax that America is a great country and Russia is communist.  Having a Fatima procession and marching for Russia, considering the stranglehold that Masons and Jєωs have over ALL OF US now, is like going on an Easter-egg hunt.  A pretty and fun distraction that makes you feel good about yourself.  

    They have rose-colored glasses on and it's going to trap them when they end up losing their jobs and becoming engineers for an Obama work-camp.

    That sums up my problem, I think.
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