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Title: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 11:44:58 AM
Father Starbuck, who now heads Our Lady Help of Christians, has posted this on our chapel website
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http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/ (http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/)


Saturday, November 20 2021

Dear Parishioners,
Posted Nov 19th :
 
 Here are updates responding to concerns at the present moment. First of all, the Requiem Mass for Fr. Perez cannot be held for at least a couple of weeks, due to so many cases in the parish. Details are pending at the present time.
 
 I need to have a better idea of how many people in the parish presently have Coronavirus. If you have it or know of someone in the parish who is unable to report for himself, please contact Angela Siffron at: 661-264-8254. I do not think that we can safely resume Sunday Masses in the church before December 5. And we will not resume until we know that we are reasonably safe.
 
 Mass will continue to be live-streamed on Sunday mornings at 10:00 a.m., and Mass will be live-streamed on Thanksgiving morning at 9:00 a.m.
 
 I have had requests about making tithes/contributions to the parish. Please do not discontinue sending your weekly donations. Please send all donations to: Fr. Starbuck, Our Lady Help of Christians Chapel, PO Box 427, Tustin, CA 92781. And PLEASE DO NOT MAKE CHECKS PAYABLE TO ME, unless you are intending a personal gift to me. (I will clarify if there are any questions.)
 
 Finally, please continue your prayers for Fr. Wiest. I have regular communications with him (via texting). He sounds stable, but is suffering greatly. He has my continuous prayers. He also warns with repeated emphasis that this disease is to be respected. And he is absolutely correct. We cannot lose any more lives to this disease!
 
 In our Lord,
 Fr. Starbuck
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 11:59:55 AM
Maybe have Mass outdoors.   They really need to open windows at all these chapels. Turn down heat.  Wash hands. 





Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 12:20:05 PM
Stop living in fear from Wuhan 19.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 12:29:19 PM
Is he a Novus Ordo indult priest? 
As far as I know only Novus Ordo churches closed for illness during the lockdowns. 
Neither priests nor faithful need to fear the flu with a .2% chance of death. 
I hope there is another chapel for the parishioners to attend in the area. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 12:30:47 PM
Stop living in fear from Wuhan 19.
We are not living in fear; we are grieving the loss of Father Perez to the Communist Chinese bio-weapon (and the possible loss of another priest.) We have only Father Starbuck to do the work of three priests. Let us pray for him.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
We are not living in fear; we are grieving the loss of Father Perez to the Communist Chinese bio-weapon (and the possible loss of another priest.) We have only Father Starbuck to do the work of three priests. Let us pray for him.
Fr. Perez had other ailments.  Who knows what he really died of.

Yes, pray for Fr. Starbuck, and BE CHARITABLE.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 01:59:52 PM
Is he a Novus Ordo indult priest?
As far as I know only Novus Ordo churches closed for illness during the lockdowns.
Neither priests nor faithful need to fear the flu with a .2% chance of death.
I hope there is another chapel for the parishioners to attend in the area.
He is a Dominican Traditional Catholic priest.
This has nothing to do with the lockdowns. Our chapel was open during the lockdowns.

This has to do with a family who suspected they had covid, (and at the same time Father Perez was dying from the CCP weapon and another priest hospitalized with the CCP bio-weapon), they decided to send their coughing son to assist at Mass. The NEXT day the family said their entire family tested positive for covid. Seriously?

Many at the chapel are elderly and have pre- existing conditions which make them vulnerable to this bio-weapon. Out of an abundance of caution and to protect the elderly and vulnerable, Father Starbuck has made this wise decision.

Let us pray for the repose of the soul of Father Perez, for the healing of Father Wiest, and for strength for Father Starbuck to do the work of all three priests.

Uncharitable nitpicking and criticism are not helpful.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 03:56:43 PM
I'm not criticizing Fr. Starbuck at all but I personally believe we should be willing to die to continue to attend Mass. I'm not talking about individual people staying home when they're sick, but shutting down a parish for any reason lets the devil win, in my personal opinion. Be smart (wash hands, open windows, spread out, have Mass OUTSIDE: OLHC is in California so the weather's good enough, etc). If I were Father Starbuck I would say Mass outside. They have enough land there. I get that it's easier said then done, but we must remember the martyrs. Fr. Perez talked about the courage of the martyrs and refusing the vaccine 2 weeks ago. Someone posted the video on the Fr. Perez thread. RIP Father Perez and I will be praying for Father Starbuck. :pray:  
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Ladislaus on November 20, 2021, 05:55:30 PM
No, they were stricken with the Pfizer bioweapon. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 06:18:41 PM
Maybe have Mass outdoors.  They really need to open windows at all these chapels. Turn down heat.  Wash hands.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 06:19:25 PM
No, they were stricken with the Pfizer bioweapon.
They got the jab??
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 07:18:21 PM
I'm not criticizing Fr. Starbuck at all but I personally believe we should be willing to die to continue to attend Mass. I'm not talking about individual people staying home when they're sick, but shutting down a parish for any reason lets the devil win, in my personal opinion. Be smart (wash hands, open windows, spread out, have Mass OUTSIDE: OLHC is in California so the weather's good enough, etc). If I were Father Starbuck I would say Mass outside. They have enough land there. I get that it's easier said then done, but we must remember the martyrs. Fr. Perez talked about the courage of the martyrs and refusing the vaccine 2 weeks ago. Someone posted the video on the Fr. Perez thread. RIP Father Perez and I will be praying for Father Starbuck. :pray: 
agreed!
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Änσnymσus on November 20, 2021, 08:04:58 PM
Stop living in fear from Wuhan 19.
I'm guessing OLHC was targeted for the flu outbreak?

In other words, the chapel was intentionally laced with a highly contagious pathogen.

Of all places, it's a very high profile trad chapel.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 21, 2021, 05:24:04 AM
Quote from: Änσnymσus (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=65033.msg786131#msg786131) 11/20/2021, 12:29:19 PM
Is he a Novus Ordo indult priest?
As far as I know only Novus Ordo churches closed for illness during the lockdowns.
Neither priests nor faithful need to fear the flu with a .2% chance of death.
I hope there is another chapel for the parishioners to attend in the area.

Yes, we all prayed for Fr. Perez, and we all would have preferred that he not die. But with all due respect to the dead, it doesn't change the FACT that COVID-19 (whatever it is) has a 99.8% survival rate for those under retirement age. And even among the extreme elderly, the survival rate is something like 98.2%.

So let's not blow this out of proportion, or give in to the mania that is gripping so much of the world in paralyzing fear.

And whatever you do, please remember the COMMON SENSE that we all had before 2019. Masks do nothing. No matter HOW bad COVID 19 is, they are no more effective than dangling a lucky rabbits foot from your belt. That's how foolish you look, while wearing a mask. Or walking around with your thumb in your mouth. Totally ludicrous. Next, there is no such thing as "asymptomatic spread". If you aren't around someone who is coughing and hacking, and you reasonably wash your hands before you eat (after you've been to the store), then the only remaining way to catch COVID is from idiots who took the jab and are shedding whatever COVID is (graphene, protein strands, virus) like Santa Claus giving away gifts on Christmas. Finally, the PCR tests are totally bogus, as taught by the man who INVENTED the test (but, curiously, died right before COVID came out). The value of every PCR test given thus far is worth less than the contents of my SEPTIC TANK.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 21, 2021, 05:30:28 AM
What's Fr. Starbuck going to do instead of offering Mass --  start selling coffee?

But what would he CALL such a business...
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 21, 2021, 04:35:38 PM
Father Starbuck is grieving for the loss of his friend of 15 years, Father Perez. Another priest from the chapel is still in the hospital with covid. He was also a close personal friend of another traditional priest who last week also died of covid. A few months ago he also lost his beloved Mother to covid. Many families in the chapel now have covid (such as the family who came to Mass ill and coughing and the next day tested positive. He also has myriad business affairs of the chapel to attend to, as always happens in an unexpected death.

He is heroic in his attempt to do the work of three priests. He is the one who travels throughout Orange County and L. A. County giving the last rites and making sick calls.
In the name of Christian charity, this is not a time to make fun of or criticize this good priest who is doing the best he can under extremely difficult circuмstances.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 21, 2021, 04:45:51 PM
If you are sick, stay home.  (Don’t get tested.  Those who get tested and testing positive might have gotten covid via test swab.). It is regular season to get sick. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 21, 2021, 10:28:06 PM
If you are sick, stay home.  (Don’t get tested.  Those who get tested and testing positive might have gotten covid via test swab.). It is regular season to get sick.
I agree -- don't get tested. So many people have refused the swab that they are now doing spit testing instead, which is much less invasive.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Puzzle on November 22, 2021, 09:31:42 AM
Father Starbuck is grieving for the loss of his friend of 15 years, Father Perez. Another priest from the chapel is still in the hospital with covid. He was also a close personal friend of another traditional priest who last week also died of covid. A few months ago he also lost his beloved Mother to covid. Many families in the chapel now have covid (such as the family who came to Mass ill and coughing and the next day tested positive. He also has myriad business affairs of the chapel to attend to, as always happens in an unexpected death.

He is heroic in his attempt to do the work of three priests. He is the one who travels throughout Orange County and L. A. County giving the last rites and making sick calls.
In the name of Christian charity, this is not a time to make fun of or criticize this good priest who is doing the best he can under extremely difficult circuмstances.

God bless Fr. Starbuck.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Incredulous on November 22, 2021, 09:43:45 AM



And please, keep in your prayers the return of Father Sretenovich.

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Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 22, 2021, 11:11:58 AM
God bless Fr. Starbuck.
Amen.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 23, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
Tuesday, November 23 2021

Dear Parishioners,
 
 The following are my current Sunday/Monday updates. First of all, I am still waiting to hear from Fr. Perez’s family regarding plans for his Requiem Mass. It seemed in initial planning that the family desired a Requiem Mass with catafalque (i.e., without the body). That is practically necessitated by the circuмstances of this epidemic. I will let you know as soon as I have information.
 
 As you know, we will live-stream Mass on Thanksgiving morning at 9:00 a.m. I want to take a bold step here and have Communion following Mass. While the church will be closed for the Mass, afterwards we will open the doors and let people come in for Communion at the altar rail. It will be a brief Communion service. I ask that people not remain in the church for more than 10 minutes after receiving Communion. Then the church must be sanitized again. Also, there will be no Confessions. I am offering what I can here in the safest way I know. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. We also need to have hand sanitizer in the vestibule for those who want it. And we need for parishioners to rise up and see that the church is sanitized after any liturgical service or meeting.
 
 We will now have a no-cough/no-sneeze policy until further notice. There is to be no coughing or sneezing inside the church. And if anyone is caught off guard, he must cover his face. If someone has a chronic cough, they are to clear that with me before attending. That way people can be assured that anyone who is coughing has a chronic (i.e., noninfectious) cough. These are protocols that were normative when I was a boy. But with the loss of etiquette and of common sense, these precautions have fallen by the wayside.
 
 I am aiming for a December 5 (Sunday) re-opening. This is a trial run. We will only have 7:30 and 10:00 a.m. Masses that morning. Please pray that we can open in safety.
 
 Wednesday, December 8 is the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. It is a Holy Day of Obligation. Mass times that morning will be 7:00 & 9:00 a.m. There will be no evening Mass. Ushers are requested to take collections at both the Sunday and Wednesday Masses.
 
 For updates from Angela Siffron please email her at: Churchlady@neptuneplumbing.com directly. I will send updates to her, which she will forward via the server list. In other words, do not contact me to be on this list. Please be sure to keep Angela updated on Covid cases in the parish.
 
 Last but not least, I received word today (Sunday) that Fr. Wiest is doing somewhat better. This is encouraging! Please keep him in your prayers.
 
 In our Lord,
 
 Fr. Starbuck


Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 23, 2021, 05:26:59 PM
Quote
It seemed in initial planning that the family desired a Requiem Mass with catafalque (i.e., without the body). That is practically necessitated by the circuмstances of this epidemic. I will let you know as soon as I have information.


Yes, I know. The "pandemic" with a 99.8% survival rate, which only seems to affect those OVER THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY as well as those IN POOR HEALTH.

Not exactly like the movie Contagion! In that movie, kids, young healthy people, everyone died, with close to a 10% survival rate. Almost everyone who got it died, or at least the movie made it seem.

Where are the death carts in my neighborhood, calling out their somber reminder "Bring out your dead!".
Better burn the bodies of the dead, since this is a real plague! Not enough survivors left to bury all the dead, at least not in individual graves. So many empty and abandoned houses...

What? the total death numbers aren't up by that much in 2020? No empty houses all over the place? Hmmm....interesting. Any increase in deaths is easily explained by criminality/malpractice (killing patients, use of ventilators, suppression of the MULTIPLE LEGIT TREATMENTS for Covid with no downside or side effects, giving excessive morphine to the elderly (=euthanasia), sending COVID patients into nursing homes like Gov. Cuomo did, etc.

Why aren't the homeless dead all over the place? They aren't exactly the youngest/healthiest, nor do they have the best care money can buy. They often have health issues and/or drug addictions. They sure can't "socially distance" or they'd starve to death. They have to mingle IN PERSON with as many people as possible, in order to survive (panhandle).
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: John Felton on November 24, 2021, 01:18:35 AM
Fr. Starbuck will have to answer to God for closing the church and denying Sacraments to the faithful.

Cough-and-sneeze policy..! What idiocy.

If it is to stay open, Our Lady Help of Christians chapel will need a pastor with courage.

Someone like Fr. Isaac Mary Relyea would be perfect. He could completely reform that mediocre place.

If nothing else, couldn't Fr. Sretenovic return?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Thorn on November 24, 2021, 01:42:38 AM
Was Fr. S conditionally reordained?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Nadir on November 24, 2021, 02:05:34 AM
I agree -- don't get tested. So many people have refused the swab that they are now doing spit testing instead, which is much less invasive.
Is it any more efficient than the nose jab? Isn't it still "testng" though?

Thank you for your kind words for Father. May he rest inpeace.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 24, 2021, 03:26:01 AM
Tuesday, November 23 2021

We will now have a no-cough/no-sneeze policy until further notice. There is to be no coughing or sneezing inside the church. And if anyone is caught off guard, he must cover his face. If someone has a chronic cough, they are to clear that with me before attending. That way people can be assured that anyone who is coughing has a chronic (i.e., noninfectious) cough. These are protocols that were normative when I was a boy. But with the loss of etiquette and of common sense, these precautions have fallen by the wayside.

This is ludicrous.

He's diving into COVID paranoia head-first. This is exactly what is wrong with the world right now. If I sneeze or cough because I was doing outdoor work with lots of dry/dead grass that day * -- that is to say, not infectious at all, much less "the plague" -- people would hold their breath and head for the exits, thinking I have The Plague (TM). It's ridiculous. Want to talk about what has fallen by the wayside? RATIONALITY and COMMON SENSE. People used to cough and sneeze for dozens of reasons before the Covid boogeyman was foisted upon the world by the likes of Fauci, Bill Gates, and Klaus Schwab. And people didn't freak out about it. What happened to that?


* for those unfamiliar, when you wheedwhack dry grass it creates lots of dust, as the grass is pulverized, and you usually breathe in SOME of it -- the same with mowing grass and other activities. For a while after, your lungs have to purify themselves the only way they know how. They insist on 100% cleanness.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 24, 2021, 03:38:19 AM
Since Fr. Starbuck seems to be helping Bill Gates, Fauci, and Klaus Schwab with their nefarious agenda (perhaps unwittingly, but objectively doing so nevertheless), I have to oppose his fearmongering with some facts and common sense.

1. Fr. Perez had "other health issues" according to Puzzle, a former CathInfo member who was a parishioner and DIE-HARD supporter of the chapel in question, and all the priests there.

2. The statistics -- the facts -- are that COVID has a very, very high survival rate around 99.8%, several orders of magnitude higher than the deadly plague in the movie "Contagion". I don't recall if that movie made the survival rate known, but the SURVIVAL rate was very low. In the film, people of all ages dropped dead a few days after infection.

3. Furthermore, catching COVID is not that big of a deal, unless you are elderly AND/OR in poor health AND you are a complete passive, naive dishrag about your treatment.  If you believe and trust CNN in 2021 about Ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, Z-pac, and the other myriad TREATMENTS which EXIST for "Covid" then, frankly, you deserve whatever happens to you. After ignoring ALL the treatments, you find yourself in need of care and then it's "Hospital, here I am. Take care of me. Keep me on my back immobile all day, the opposite of standard advice for lung ailments? O. k. Ventilator? O. k. High dosage of Morphine? O. k. A vasectomy to help cure my COVID? O. k. An experimental injection? O. k."
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Nadir on November 24, 2021, 04:43:20 AM
Yes, Matthew, people are becoming (have become) neurotic hypochondriacs. They seem to this all this hoo haa is about health. No at all; it’s about genocide. 

Didn’t faithful Catholics come out in droves to fight real plagues with prayers, liturgies, public processions. We have lost all sense of history. This is just collective insanity.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: justG on November 24, 2021, 09:16:51 AM
I have been thinking for awhile that "health" has become a Holy Grail of sorts for many people, including traditional Catholics.  We also have a large number of these same Catholics that have been told for many years by the SSPX leadership to stay offline, basically don't research or look into or question anything.

That said, I would like to say, in defense of Fr. Starbuck:  some years ago now, he was very very ill with some sort of autoimmune disease. I don't remember all of the details, but he probably does not really want to get sick like that again.  It can be hard to shake that sort of experience, especially now that he is suddenly Pastor and has the care of all of these souls who need him to be well.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 24, 2021, 12:01:58 PM
That said, I would like to say, in defense of Fr. Starbuck:  some years ago now, he was very very ill with some sort of autoimmune disease. I don't remember all of the details, but he probably does not really want to get sick like that again.  It can be hard to shake that sort of experience, especially now that he is suddenly Pastor and has the care of all of these souls who need him to be well.
Yes he was very very ill and out of commission for a long time. Thank the Lord we had three good priests at that time,and the other two priests could pick up the slack.

Father Starbuck now has a heavy burden to carry. He's in his 60s and not in the best of health. With Father Perez's passing, Father Weist being in the hospital for several weeks, families coming to Mass when ill, and many of our chapel members being old and vulnerable, Father Starbuck has reason to be cautious.

Let us pray for Father Starbuck, that God will give him the strength to carry on.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Todd The Trad on November 24, 2021, 12:23:48 PM
Yes he was very very ill and out of commission for a long time. Thank the Lord we had three good priests at that time,and the other two priests could pick up the slack.

Father Starbuck now has a heavy burden to carry. He's in his 60s and not in the best of health. With Father Perez's passing, Father Weist being in the hospital for several weeks, families coming to Mass when ill, and many of our chapel members being old and vulnerable, Father Starbuck has reason to be cautious.

Let us pray for Father Starbuck, that God will give him the strength to carry on.
I will be praying for Fr. Starbuck, but don't the vast majority of trad chapels have only one priest? I'm sure he can manage with the help of God's grace and our prayers.

Cera, do you know who Fr. Wiest was ordained by? Maybe this has already been answered, but I know there's been some controversy about Fr. Wiest's status as a priest/who ordained him. Would you be able to shed some light on this for the benefit of those who go to OLHC or may be considering going there?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: John Felton on November 24, 2021, 03:26:07 PM
We also have a large number of these same Catholics that have been told for many years by the SSPX leadership to stay offline, basically don't research or look into or question anything.
It's the same at Institute of Christ the King. They want to keep the faithful ignorant like some Hollywood stereotype of peasants. 

That said, I would like to say, in defense of Fr. Starbuck:  some years ago now, he was very very ill with some sort of autoimmune disease. I don't remember all of the details, but he probably does not really want to get sick like that again.  It can be hard to shake that sort of experience, especially now that he is suddenly Pastor and has the care of all of these souls who need him to be well.
He can cross that bridge when he gets to it. Until then he should do his duty for souls. Preemptive closure of the Church is dereliction of duty. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Seraphina on November 24, 2021, 06:04:29 PM
Since when are people who don’t even know Fr. Starbuck qualified to pass judgment upon him?  
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: John Felton on November 25, 2021, 01:19:28 AM
Since when are people who don’t even know Fr. Starbuck qualified to pass judgment upon him? 
I know him personally. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: dymphnaw on November 25, 2021, 07:21:33 AM
It's the same at Institute of Christ the King. They want to keep the faithful ignorant like some Hollywood stereotype of peasants.
He can cross that bridge when he gets to it. Until then he should do his duty for souls. Preemptive closure of the Church is dereliction of duty.
Maybe the chapel should be closed if the comments I've been reading on Cathinfo are representative of the people  who go there. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: LeDeg on November 25, 2021, 11:35:49 AM
Fr Louis Campbell is 87 years old and tends to over 600 souls at St Jude's Shrine in Stafford, TX. He is all by himself.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 25, 2021, 12:30:24 PM
I know him personally.
All the more reason to spend your time praying for him rather than taking pot shots at him
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 27, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
Dear Parishioners,

The following are updates on this day before Thanksgiving, as we anticipate this holiday weekend and the first Sunday of Advent.

As to funeral arrangements for Fr. Perez, the family informed me of their plans earlier this afternoon. I want for you to understand that this is their decision, and that I respect and am honoring that decision. The family has asked for private burial with a public Requiem Mass at a later time. They feel the need to bury sooner rather than later, and I agree with that decision. Moreover, they just lost their beloved to a virus that is still infecting our parish. The Church universal developed the catafalque for just such occasions, i.e., so that the Requiem Mass could be held with the absolutions performed over the bier vicariously when it is not possible to have the body present. The family desires to wait for the Requiem Mass at a time when they will feel comfortable attending. And that will be at least a few weeks from now. I understand the need to mourn. So I ask you to visit the table outside of the church and to write a note to express your appreciation of this great priest who gave his livelihood as pastor of this parish - nearly a quarter of a century of service.

As you know, we will live-stream Mass on Thanksgiving morning at 9:00 a.m. There will be a brief Communion service following Mass. While the church will be closed for the Mass, we will open the doors afterwards and let people come in for Communion at the altar rail. People should not remain in the church for more than 10 minutes after receiving Communion. There will be no Confessions. Mass will be live-streamed again this Sunday at 10:00 a.m., and the church will be closed to the public. There will be no Communion after Mass. Plans are for a December 5 (Sunday) re-opening. There will only be the 7:30 and 10:00 Masses that morning.

Circuмstances make the Christmas Novena a bit difficult this year. So I am planning to offer an enrollment for the Christmas Masses instead. There will be a card for you to give to recipients of the enrollment. All of the monies from this enrollment will go to the church in this time of need.

I want to wish you and your family a very blessed and happy Thanksgiving and Advent. Although we have lost much, we have much for which we should be grateful!

In our Lord,

Fr. Starbuck

P.S. For updates from Angela Siffron please email her at: Churchlady@neptuneplumbing.com directly. I will send updates to her, which she will forward via the server list. In other words, do not contact me to be on this list. Please be sure to keep Angela updated on Covid cases in the parish.


Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Thorn on November 27, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
Fr. Starbuck keeps referring to Fr. Weist.  So he is convinced that he's a real priest?  He's seen his docuмentations?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 27, 2021, 01:00:58 PM
Dear Parishioners,

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As you know, we will live-stream Mass on Thanksgiving morning at 9:00 a.m. There will be a brief Communion service following Mass. While the church will be closed for the Mass, we will open the doors afterwards and let people come in for Communion at the altar rail. People should not remain in the church for more than 10 minutes after receiving Communion. There will be no Confessions. Mass will be live-streamed again this Sunday at 10:00 a.m., and the church will be closed to the public. There will be no Communion after Mass. Plans are for a December 5 (Sunday) re-opening. There will only be the 7:30 and 10:00 Masses that morning.

Circuмstances make the Christmas Novena a bit difficult this year. So I am planning to offer an enrollment for the Christmas Masses instead. There will be a card for you to give to recipients of the enrollment. All of the monies from this enrollment will go to the church in this time of need.

Please be sure to keep Angela updated on Covid cases in the parish.

Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab would be proud. I'm sure all the devil worshipers behind The Great Reset and this scheme to implement global Communism and reduce the global population by 90% are insanely happy about this. They love to see promotion and buy-in to their Fear Porn agenda. Every little bit helps. If you won't promote the Great Reset and Climate Crisis, at least promote the Scamdemic. Kind of like "If you can't donate, at least share this video with your friends." These human devils hate God, remember. They don't want to see Him worshiped.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: TKGS on November 27, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Why is it that people in southern California are getting COVID at high rates while people in Florida (with about the same climate) are not?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: DustyActual on November 27, 2021, 05:13:49 PM
Why is it that people in southern California are getting COVID at high rates while people in Florida (with about the same climate) are not?
I would say it's because there are more vaxxed people in California than in Florida. It seems highly probable now that vaccinated people are shedding the virus onto the unvaccinated.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Yeti on November 27, 2021, 05:39:05 PM
We will now have a no-cough/no-sneeze policy until further notice. There is to be no coughing or sneezing inside the church. And if anyone is caught off guard, he must cover his face. If someone has a chronic cough, they are to clear that with me before attending. That way people can be assured that anyone who is coughing has a chronic (i.e., noninfectious) cough. These are protocols that were normative when I was a boy. But with the loss of etiquette and of common sense, these precautions have fallen by the wayside.
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Huh? I have never heard of such a thing. Has anyone else?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: TKGS on November 27, 2021, 06:00:31 PM
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Huh? I have never heard of such a thing. Has anyone else?
The "normative protocol" that people should cover their faces when they cough and sneeze?  Yes.  That was the "normative protocol" when I was a boy too.  In fact, here in the Midwest, almost everyone does that.  But this priest is in California.  I don't think they teach common courtesies and politeness there.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Yeti on November 27, 2021, 06:05:17 PM
The "normative protocol" that people should cover their faces when they cough and sneeze?  Yes.  That was the "normative protocol" when I was a boy too.  In fact, here in the Midwest, almost everyone does that.  But this priest is in California.  I don't think they teach common courtesies and politeness there.
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No, that's not what I meant. Yeah, obviously people should cover their mouth when they cough or sneeze, and people do that in California just like anywhere else. I meant the part about people not being allowed to cough or sneeze in church, and the idea that someone with a chronic cough needs the priest's permission to attend church. I am very surprised to hear that such things were the norm when he was a boy. I have never heard of this being done anywhere.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: TKGS on November 27, 2021, 06:08:36 PM
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No, that's not what I meant. Yeah, obviously people should cover their mouth when they cough or sneeze, and people do that in California just like anywhere else. I meant the part about people not being allowed to cough or sneeze in church, and the idea that someone with a chronic cough needs the priest's permission to attend church. I am very surprised to hear that such things were the norm when he was a boy. I have never heard of this being done anywhere.
Now that is just plain absurd!!!!  :laugh1:  Something tells me this Fr. Starbuck isn't all there.  The coffee's hot, but it doesn't have any caffeine.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 27, 2021, 06:35:50 PM
Sunday, November 28 2021

Dear Parishioners,
 
 In order to assist you in your First Friday/Saturday devotions, I have developed the following plan. This coming (First) Friday and Saturday I will be available in the confessional at 8:00 a.m. Only one person at a time will be allowed in the church. My assistant will monitor those going to the confessional. At 9:00 a.m. the church will be opened for a brief Communion service. People should leave within 10 minutes of receiving Communion. As to First Saturday, anyone unable to fulfill the devotion on Saturday may do so on Sunday this month by decree of this unworthy priest. In the words of Sister Lucy (speaking the words given to her), "The practice of this devotion will be equally acceptable on the Sunday following the First Saturday when My Priests, for a just cause, allow it to souls." Finally, there will obviously be no Eucharistic adoration this month. That will continue in January.
 
 Mass will be live-streamed on Sunday (tomorrow) at 10:00 a.m. I ask that the church be empty at 9:15 a.m. (Individuals praying in the chapel on Thanksgiving Day contributed to the delay in Mass starting on time.)
 
 Please do not forget the financial needs of the church at this time. Again, checks should be made to OLHC (not to me), and sent to my PO box. If you have envelopes, please use them. (FYI, these will remain sealed until they are processed.)
 
 The following are protocols for families with coughing children: Mothers have the most difficult task of any of us in understanding how their childrens' symptoms should be interpreted. The following criteria should be adequate to answer the question. Children with chronic coughs of more than 10 days and who are fever-free may attend church. Children with coughs lasting less than 10 days or who have a fever should not attend church, nor should their parents. However, children who have tested negative for Coronavirus within 72 hours and who otherwise have mild symptoms may attend Mass along with their families.
 
 I believe that Fr. Wiest is recovering slowly but surely. Contrary to rumor, he is still in the hospital. It appears to me that this is going to be a slow recovery. He has had a very lonely stay in the hospital, and has suffered greatly. Please keep him in your prayers.
 
 In our Lord,
 
 Fr. Starbuck
 
 P.S. For updates from Angela Siffron please email her at: Churchlady@neptuneplumbing.com directly. I will send updates to her, which she will forward via the server list. In other words, do not contact me to be on this list. Please be sure to keep Angela updated on Covid cases in the parish.



Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: TKGS on November 27, 2021, 08:00:13 PM
Sounds like Fr. Starbuck has bought the propaganda hook, line, and sinker.  
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: StLouisIX on November 27, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Was Fr. S conditionally reordained?

He was conditionally ordained by Bp. Zendejas. He wrote something about it which was reposted here on CI some years ago. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Nadir on November 27, 2021, 11:20:51 PM
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Huh? I have never heard of such a thing. Has anyone else?
Never heard such stupidity before. This seems insane to me. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 27, 2021, 11:26:21 PM
You might convince me that COVID exists, but no one has made a good case that the COVID testing is worth anything more than a puff of gas from the south end of a north-bound cow.

PCR testing? Seriously? Have you even PAID ATTENTION? Have you read anything on the subject? This particular aspect of the COVID madness is pretty cut-and-dried, I must say.

I'll repeat for the millionth time: the INVENTOR of PCR testing is on video (before his death) saying that the test is NOT to be used to diagnose illness or active infection. It will find fragments of DNA, that is it. And the more "cycles" are applied, the easier it is to find just about anything in the sample. We all have detritus from countless defeated bacteria and viruses floating around our bloodstream. "Anything over 30 cycles is worthless". Remember?
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Nadir on November 27, 2021, 11:30:44 PM
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The following are protocols for families with coughing children: Mothers have the most difficult task of any of us in understanding how their childrens' symptoms should be interpreted. The following criteria should be adequate to answer the question. Children with chronic coughs of more than 10 days and who are fever-free may attend church. Children with coughs lasting less than 10 days or who have a fever should not attend church, nor should their parents. However, children who have tested negative for Coronavirus within 72 hours and who otherwise have mild symptoms may attend Mass along with their families.


what?
Who knows better than a mother how to interpret her child’s symptoms. I am even more convinced that this is a case of insanity.

This should be compulsory reading for every person buying into the nonsense that Father believes.
https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/why-do-people-willingly-sacrifice-their-freedoms/
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 28, 2021, 02:05:07 AM
They have so many different things coming down the pike.

However, one thing to consider and keep in mind is the war strategy they have drawn up where they release a bioweapon to strike key players in a community and use that to break up and disperse the community.

See this video of a talk given at Lawrence Livermore Weapons Lab at the 6 minute mark describing how to create a false pandemic by this method:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0XYDL1Ck0E8Q/
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Matthew on November 28, 2021, 02:11:21 AM
the war strategy they have drawn up where they release a bioweapon to strike key players in a community and use that to break up and disperse the community.

How do you release a bioweapon to strike "key players in a community"?  It's not a blow dart or a missile! A bioweapon will SPREAD from human to human, including back to themselves.

If it is truly deadly (NOTE: Covid was very much NOT) and untreatable, not only will those "key players" and "community leaders" die, but countless legions of the plebs and common riff-raff that keep this country running. You know, gas at the gas station, stuff on the shelves, police keeping criminals at bay, firefighters putting out fires, and everything staying normal and civilized.

As I said in another thread, the multi-trillionaire elite will find that their advantages over us will evaporate almost completely -- their wealth will be worthless -- if a collapse is caused, and we all go back to the Law of the Jungle.

These elite are NOT super fit martial arts masters, ninjas, or Special Forces. Quite the opposite, in most cases. Look at Zuckerberg. In a mad max or collapse scenario, he'd be one of the first to go.

What good are trillions in the bank, if there is nowhere to vacation, store shelves are empty everywhere, etc.? Unless your wealth takes the form of food and a private army. But even then -- what is so special about YOU unless you have some serious charisma. Another more capable guy could αssαssιnαtҽ you and take over easily.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Miser Peccator on November 28, 2021, 02:22:17 AM
How do you release a bioweapon to strike "key players in a community"?  It's not a blow dart or a missile! A bioweapon will SPREAD from human to human, including back to themselves.


Not all bioweapons are like what you are describing.

You'd have to listen to his talk and Dr Charles Morgan at Westpoint to get the picture.

They can do precise targeting and it's not contagious to mass numbers of people.

And yes, they can even do blowdarts.

What spreads is the fear.

They go on the news and describe the symptoms and everyone "gets" the disease the next time they feel sick.

Then they get a bogus PCR test and voila!  It's a confirmed case.

The overall death rates in 2020 were not higher than previous years and flu was at near zero.

Plus there is graphene poisoning from various methods.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: StLouisIX on November 28, 2021, 02:40:09 PM
Was Fr. S conditionally reordained?

Which Fr. S did you mean? I assumed you were referring to Fr Sretenovic in my first response, but if you were referring to Fr. Starbuck, I have heard that he has not been conditionally ordained. 
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Thorn on November 28, 2021, 04:55:39 PM
When I posted I meant Fr. Sretenovic, then realized that there were 2 Fr. S's, but left it as is as I also wondered about Fr. Starbuck, so thanks for answering for both Fathers.
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: StLouisIX on November 28, 2021, 05:08:44 PM
When I posted I meant Fr. Sretenovic, then realized that there were 2 Fr. S's, but left it as is as I also wondered about Fr. Starbuck, so thanks for answering for both Fathers.

You're welcome!
Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on November 29, 2021, 06:51:20 PM
This from another thread is exactly what Father Starbuck is trying to prevent among the aged and infirm of OLHC.

Bishop Faure Deteriorating (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/bishop-faure-deteriorating/msg788417/#msg788417)
« on: Today at 12:49:10 PM »

Update this morning:

"Despite yesterday's improvement, which made one think that he would soon be released from the hospital, today's news is not so good.
The monsignor is being intubated right now.
The doctor himself told me two days ago that the oxygen was going well, but the body, which was in "forced march" to compensate for the lack, supported by the oxygen mask, finally could not continue. It is therefore necessary to put him under artificial respiration, through a tube that goes directly into the trachea (hence the word intubation). This requires a general anesthesia (also called an artificial coma).
This anaesthesia can, in the best of cases, last about a week, in the other 3 weeks, even a month.
The goal is to keep the body supplied with enough oxygen while it continues to fight the virus.
The problem is how long it will take the body to fight the virus, also knowing that Monsignor is diabetic, and that represents an already weakened immune system.
The Monsignor was in his right mind before the intubation procedure, and according to a doctor specializing in anesthesia, coming out of anesthesia in this case is not a real danger.
Let us continue to pray that God will hasten his recovery as soon as possible.
Abbe Perez."

Prayers requested.


Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on December 02, 2021, 10:26:02 AM
 

The Requiem Mass for Msgr. Perez will be Thursday, December 9, at 10:00 AM, at Our Lady Help of Christians 9621 Bixby Ave., Garden Grove, CA 92841.

Title: Re: Father Starbuck now head of chapel at OLHC in Garden Grove
Post by: Cera on December 06, 2021, 09:27:27 AM
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 3:51 PM

Dear Parishioners,

Normally, I try not to do any unnecessary work on Sundays.  However, I just discovered a stream or backlog of voicemails which I had been missing since mid-November (or even earlier).  I do not know why I am just now seeing them on my phone.  My sister in Illinois had complained of a similar experience.  This past month has been so hectic that I am not sure what has happened.  However, I want for you to know that I make the effort to return every phone call.  I am sorry for any inconvenience or trouble that this may have caused anyone, not to mention feelings.  It truly saddens me to learn of this.  Please know of my goodwill to be of assistance to each and every person I serve.  Thank you for your understanding.

In our Lord,

Fr. Starbuck