Does anyone know what the ordination status is for this priest? It appears that he came over from the NO, but I can't seem to find any evidence that he has received conditional ordination.I was not able to find any information indicating that he was ever conditionally ordained.
I was not able to find any information indicating that he was ever conditionally ordained.Maybe the Angelus will have an article on why Anglican orders are valid since the pope thinks so. What are you worried about.
I am bumping this in case someone who knows more might see it.
I would be interested in hearing what the truth is.
Yeah, it's very sad that neo-SSPX don't make this information public so that the faithful have to dig around asking about it. It's done on purpose to basically force their position down everyone's throats. "We decided they're valid. You are not to question us. If we send you a priest, you are to presume validity." There's a huge amount of hubris there. Well, guess walk, guys, if it does turn out that these priests are not valid, you will be judged by God for all the Sacraments you've deprived the faithful of.
Yep, I agree. Fr Settimo is not the only priest in Sanford who came from the Novus Ordo and who the faithful don’t know if they were conditionally ordained. Fr. Pieroni, stationed in West Palm Beach and Davie, was also a NO priest.So sad... :facepalm: :pray:
Does anyone know what the ordination status is for this priest? It appears that he came over from the NO, but I can't seem to find any evidence that he has received conditional ordination.I don't think he has.
Also, the NO seminary formation is basically like going to college, going to daily Mass a couple times a week, and a two-day retreat once a year.This is factually true, including co-ed class rooms in many seminaries. Or worse -- ecuмenical and interreligious classrooms and events.
This is factually true, including co-ed class rooms in many seminaries. Or worse -- ecuмenical and interreligious classrooms and events.
It’s ridiculous that they accept ANY of the NO priest’s “training” as legit. They should be sent back to year one. Even Taylor Marshall was complaining about what a joke NO seminaries are, with zero Latin, zero scholastic philosophy, and where many priests had never even heard of St. Thomas Aquinas.It's the same in the Resistance. I have not heard of any NO priests that associate with the Resistance having to go back to year one.
With those criteria, I should have been ordained after one year, since I majored in Greek and Latin, and had as many courses in philosophy and theology, in addition to my own reading, as they have. I entered STAS with a better background than 99% of NO presiders have. Also, the NO seminary formation is basically like going to college, going to daily Mass a couple times a week, and a two-day retreat once a year.
It's the same in the Resistance. I have not heard of any NO priests that associate with the Resistance having to go back to year one.
Are there NO priests coming over directly to the Resistance? I haven't heard of too many.I would be interested to hear more about this for the sake of being aware. :incense:
None of the three N.O. priests in Sanford have been conditionally ordained. The faithful there were reprimanded by Fr. Vernoy for speculating about the status of the priests. He said their cases were "investigated" and found to be valid ordinations.Once again, how can you investigate this? You need a proper minister, the proper matter and the proper form. If any one of these is lacking the ordination is not valid. It's quite simple.
This is the new normal, folks.
P.S. the priest in charge of the investigations and training of N.O. priests coming into the Society is Fr. Paul Robinson.
Once again, how can you investigate this? You need a proper minister, the proper matter and the proper form. If any one of these is lacking the ordination is not valid. It's quite simple.It seems that the "investigations" will always produce the same result: definitely valid.
You cannot discern 'proper intention'
Right. I knew several NO seminarians and some priests who told me all about it. They were also encouraged to date through most of their seminary years. I could go on for a long time with details, including about an explicit and graphic sex education class given to seminarians by a nun, who said stuff that I can’t even repeat here, and complained the entire time about how she should be ordained a priest because she was just as qualified and had some female analogues to male genitalia (expressed very crudely). That particular story was told to me by a guy who left STAS after a week on account of Bishop Williamson’s “anti-Semitism”. He undoubtedly put down “6 million” during that first day of class with +Williamson.Sr. Mainly Diabolica?
Yeah, it's very sad that neo-SSPX don't make this information public so that the faithful have to dig around asking about it. It's done on purpose to basically force their position down everyone's throats. "We decided they're valid. You are not to question us. If we send you a priest, you are to presume validity." There's a huge amount of hubris there. Well, guess walk, guys, if it does turn out that these priests are not valid, you will be judged by God for all the Sacraments you've deprived the faithful of.Same applies to +Vigano. His conditional consecration should be shouted from the rooftops, as a repudiation of the new-sspx and all of the indult "orders" (which are doubtful).
It seems that Fr. Scott Settimo has been transferred, and is now at the SSPX's Immacuate Heart of Mary Church in St. Paul, MN.
| Dear Faithful of Our Lady of Sorrows and of Our Lady of Guadalupe: Unfortunately, I have bad news to share with you today. Fr. Settimo has had a bad fall and broke his hip yesterday, at the Retreat House in Ridgefield, Connecticut, where he went to attend the annual priestly retreat for the priests of the District. He had surgery this morning and will have therapy for at least 2 weeks, before the surgeon may allow him to travel back to Minnesota. This accident will affect the schedule of our ministry in Crookston and Cass Lake for August and September. So, please, watch for the changes on the schedule, for Mass times in the Parish Bulletin of next Sunday. But, already, please, note the change of Mass time for this coming Sunday, August 10th in Crookston and the cancellation of the Mass on Sunday, August 17, in Cass Lake.
I recommend to your good prayers Fr. Settimo, that he may have a good and quick recovery, and that he may soon begin his ministry with us in Browerville. May God bless you and Our Lady always protect your families. Sincerely yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary, Fr. Jacques Emily Pastor |
Maybe the Angelus will have an article on why Anglican orders are valid since the pope thinks so. What are you worried about.