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Offline Lover of Truth

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« on: October 05, 2009, 11:38:58 AM »
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  • "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    « Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 11:48:05 AM »
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  • Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


    Offline Elizabeth

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    « Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 12:27:16 PM »
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  • It does sounds really bad Belloc, and even I would be willing to slog through the ten pages to see if there was any hope.

    (Not that it looks very hopeful.)  It can't be worse than Crosssing the Threshold of Hope which was simply unreadable.


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    « Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 01:36:06 PM »
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  • I remember reading the book Elizabeth mentions while being a great admirer of JPII and wondering what in the heck he was talking about.  

    I have also read all his encyclicals and figured I did not understand them because I was not smart enough.  I eventually came to realize that I did not understand them because he was not Catholic enough.

    JPII writes like a Mason who believes in a one world religion where people who disagree on the essentials can be members.  He was a phenomoligist which renders the validity of a thing on pure emotion.  He was an incredibly intelligent fool or evil incarnate if he intended to lead as many souls astray as he did.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #4 on: October 05, 2009, 01:49:55 PM »
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  • Nah, don't confuse incoherant nonsense with intelligence-at least Godly intelligence.  The book had a pretty cover, and it was unreadable.  What was it about?  Nobody knows.  It was not a nuclear physics manual or insrtuctions for a computer program.  

    Whatever a phenomenologist is, it might be a cousin to Voodoo, considering the author's participation in the ceremonies.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 01:53:34 PM »
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  • Well, he was "intelligent" enough to learn 10? languages.  I'm not sure if that is intelligence or a good memory.  

    He knew big words but I'm not sure if that is intelligent or not either.  He probably got good grades.  But he did not seem to have the Catholic gifts of Wisdom, Knowledge or Understanding.  I think you made a good point Elizabeth.  But I'm not sure.  I still think he was pretty smart as is Ratzinger.

    But your last post makes me wonder if I am correct.  Anybody else have an opinion on this?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #6 on: October 05, 2009, 02:19:46 PM »
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  • Since coming to this board, I drifting towards sedevacantism.  Another nail in the coffin.  If Rome ever returns to Tradition, I think that one of us will be housing the future Pope in our basement.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2009, 02:27:26 PM »
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  • ALL RIGHT JEHANNE!!!

    You've just made me feel that perhaps my work, and that of the other sedes here, has not been entirely in vain.

     :cry:
    These are tears of joy.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 03:02:44 PM »
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    ALL RIGHT JEHANNE!!!

    You've just made me feel that perhaps my work, and that of the other sedes here, has not been entirely in vain.

     :cry:
    These are tears of joy.


    Better get that bedroom ready!

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    « Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 04:35:43 PM »
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    « Reply #10 on: October 05, 2009, 04:45:28 PM »
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    If Rome ever returns to Tradition, I think that one of us will be housing the future Pope in our basement.


    NY Eire has an extra room in his basement! :laugh2:
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 05:06:51 PM »
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    ALL RIGHT JEHANNE!!!

    You've just made me feel that perhaps my work, and that of the other sedes here, has not been entirely in vain.

     :cry:
    These are tears of joy.


    Are you crazy? Another confused irrational zealot?

    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 05:40:58 PM »
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  • Making a move from the antipopes to sede vacante can only increase the chances of receiving grace.

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    « Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 06:23:11 PM »
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    Well, he was "intelligent" enough to learn 10? languages.  I'm not sure if that is intelligence or a good memory.  

    He knew big words but I'm not sure if that is intelligent or not either.  He probably got good grades.  But he did not seem to have the Catholic gifts of Wisdom, Knowledge or Understanding.  I think you made a good point Elizabeth.  But I'm not sure.  I still think he was pretty smart as is Ratzinger.

    But your last post makes me wonder if I am correct.  Anybody else have an opinion on this?


    What is phenomenology?  

    First cousin to VooDoo?

     

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    « Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 06:33:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    What is phenomenology?


    Insanity disguised as philosophy.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."