Author Topic: Father Krammer is Sede? (Read 7293 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #35 on:** December 01, 2013, 07:40:00 AM »

Regarding him mentioning all post VII popes but not Benedict XVI (in StCecilia's post): I don't think that he was omitted by chance. I get the sense from most "traditionalist" NO priests/lay folk that Benedict XVI could do no wrong. In coming to a conclusion that all post VII popes were anti-popes, I think BXVI will be a major stumbling block for them. I don't remember who said it here, but it's probably why we need not to focus so much on the popes' individual heresies and look at the larger picture: VII.

2Vermont · « **Reply #36 on:** December 02, 2013, 03:39:52 PM »

So what's the deal here? Does this guy really believe sede vacante? Or is he just wishing Benedict XVI was back in the chair?

Centroamerica · « **Reply #37 on:** December 03, 2013, 05:59:10 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

So what's the deal here? Does this guy really believe sede vacante? Or is he just wishing Benedict XVI was back in the chair?

He is saying Pope Benedict is the current valid pope. The sede sites are intentionally omitting his following comments to use deceit to promote their agendas. I can not seem to add a snap shot of the comments. He says una cuм papa nostro Benedicto. He is saying Bergoglio is not pope and pope Benedict is. It is worth opening a Facebook account to see for yourself what he says instead of intentionally remaining confused.

TKGS · « **Reply #38 on:** December 03, 2013, 06:27:49 AM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

Quote from: 2Vermont
So what's the deal here? Does this guy really believe sede vacante? Or is he just wishing Benedict XVI was back in the chair?

He is saying Pope Benedict is the current valid pope. The sede sites are intentionally omitting his following comments to use deceit to promote their agendas. I can not seem to add a snap shot of the comments. He says una cuм papa nostro Benedicto. He is saying Bergoglio is not pope and pope Benedict is. It is worth opening a Facebook account to see for yourself what he says instead of intentionally remaining confused.

I don't think anyone is "intentionally omitting [anything] to use deceit to promote their agendas."

I think there is genuine confusion about his stand on the issue. He does seem to say both "sede vacante" and "Benedict XVI is pope". I tend to agree, however, that he is absolutely anti-sedevacantist and will grope for anything that he can grasp to deny sedevacantism.

It also seems that this viewpoint I describe here is beginning to get out.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #39 on:** December 03, 2013, 11:23:56 AM »

Did anyone see my thread on the issue? He is SV but only believes Francis to be an anti-Pope he believes the other post-conciliar Popes were valid. It is a good first step for a Novus Ordo Priest.