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Father Gruner on Fisher Moore College
« on: April 03, 2014, 11:41:57 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 05:06:04 AM »
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  • Has there been a response from the student body?


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    « Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 05:42:48 AM »
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    Father Gruner on Fisher Moore College
    « Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 08:18:34 AM »
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  • While Father Gruner is correct in his assessment that the action against Fisher More College violates "ecclesiastical law", he is absolutely wrong that it violates the law of the Conciliar sect.

    The bishop in question is complying with Conciliar law both in letter and in spirit.  A public traditional Mass is available to the people who wish to attend--just not at the college.  Priests are, according to Summorum Pontificuм, permitted to say private Masses at the college provided it is not made available to the public.  

    The problem is that the college recognizes a non-Catholic as having authority over it.

    It is interesting that Fr. Gruner says that anyone who "changes the Mass" is a heretic and is anathematized, yet he says that those who have done just that are Catholic bishops and popes!  The "demonic disorientation" is not found in the sedevacantist thesis--it is found in Conciliarism!

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    Father Gruner on Fisher Moore College
    « Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 12:41:14 PM »
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    While Father Gruner is correct in his assessment that the action against Fisher More College violates "ecclesiastical law", he is absolutely wrong that it violates the law of the Conciliar sect.

    The bishop in question is complying with Conciliar law both in letter and in spirit.  A public traditional Mass is available to the people who wish to attend--just not at the college.  Priests are, according to Summorum Pontificuм, permitted to say private Masses at the college provided it is not made available to the public.  

    The problem is that the college recognizes a non-Catholic as having authority over it.

    It is interesting that Fr. Gruner says that anyone who "changes the Mass" is a heretic and is anathematized, yet he says that those who have done just that are Catholic bishops and popes!  The "demonic disorientation" is not found in the sedevacantist thesis--it is found in Conciliarism!


    I listened to this last night, those were almost my exact thoughts.

    I do feel like those in the NO were led-on to believe that the right extended to them, in regards to the mass.


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    Father Gruner on Fisher Moore College
    « Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 02:28:32 PM »
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    « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2014, 06:37:56 PM »
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  • TKGS: You said it so right!  And when you stated non-catholic authority, that is even more right and says it all.  This is the way I see it.  The people of the dioceses, the New Order, put money in the plate, to the so-called "catholic groups, organizations and such.  Next, money goes to groups that are non-catholic, that are pro-aborts, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and such, and the dioceses boast of grant monies.  When you take grant money, you, the New Order support the agenda of the federal gov't and everyone they support.  The gov't said years ago to  the churches, "keep your identity" that means keep your name like "St. Vincent De Paul" and take the fed. $ knowing that when you get the money, you must spend it under the gov'ts ways.
    Now, that is sneaky, but it is out in the open!  Now, are the religious institutions, that call themselves, ah ha, are they?!  NO!  But those people in high places in the new order who call themselves priest, bishops and such are putting on the most terrific pony and dog show ever, don't you think?!  

    Imagine, your college that holds a catholic identity, is not, the money trail shows who they answer to.  So, how are they to act?  The way of the modernists.
    Remember now, the dioceses shook hands with marxism 60 years ago?!  Question for Fr. Gruner is, don't you know this?  Sure he does.  But I guess there is more than one avenue to answer a question without going the way that I see.