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Offline Banezian

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Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2020, 05:50:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 30, 2020, 07:03:11 PM
    Catholics have regularly disagreed on various points of doctrine throughout history.  We owe assent ultimately only to the Magisterium, not to individual bishops or priests who lack jurisdiction or teaching authority.  Someone could be mostly aligned with the Resistance and yet disagree with something that one of the Resistance bishops says or believes.  To say that this is Protestantism, I don't even know what to say to that.

    So I must break communion with an entire group because I don't agree with one or two points that are not de fide and which Catholics in good faith are entitled to disagree about?
    I don’t disagree with what you say here and as I said my criticism isn’t directed at you. To reiterate- certain Resistance faithful have criticized the Society for not re-ordaining all NO priests who come in. The Society’s policy on this point is based on a position that comes from a priest who’s now a Resistance Dominican and seminary professor. All I’m saying is that if the Society’s attitude on the New Rites are grounds for leaving it ( and encouraging others to) the faithful who do so should avoid the Resistance as well ( if they wish to be consistent)
    The disagreements between the Society and the Resistance are largely over words (and of course personalities), not anything serious or substantial 
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #31 on: July 04, 2021, 06:41:10 AM »
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    • I’m absolutely confident, as I have a excellent source, that Father Feeney IS validly ordained.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #32 on: July 04, 2021, 12:55:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on July 04, 2021, 06:41:10 AM
    I’m absolutely confident, as I have a excellent source, that Father Feeney IS validly ordained.
    That's likely because you believe the Novus Ordo ordinations are valid, no?
    I do not believe with certainty of faith that the new rite of ordination, and the new formula for the consecration of a bishop are valid, therefore, if Fr. Feeney is ordained in the new rite or his ordinating bishop was consecrated in the new formula, I do not believe he is a priest.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #33 on: July 04, 2021, 01:00:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on July 04, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
    That's likely because you believe the Novus Ordo ordinations are valid, no?
    I do not believe with certainty of faith that the new rite of ordination, and the new formula for the consecration of a bishop are valid, therefore, if Fr. Feeney is ordained in the new rite or his ordinating bishop was consecrated in the new formula, I do not believe he is a priest.
    I'm actually curious as to how QVD knows he is validly ordained because I'm fairly certain that QVD does not typically believe NO ordinations are certainly valid.  I can only guess that we were wrong and the priest was conditionally ordained.  However, I don't trust that the SSPX does that.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #34 on: July 04, 2021, 01:34:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on July 04, 2021, 06:41:10 AM
    I’m absolutely confident, as I have a excellent source, that Father Feeney IS validly ordained.
    In my own house 2 years ago he told me he was not reordained and the sspx accepted his ordination as valid.  
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #35 on: July 04, 2021, 01:56:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on June 29, 2020, 01:22:04 PM
    The Society’s official position is that the New Rites of Ordination and Consecration are valid on principle But can become doubtful if there is an external sign that the Bishop didn’t have the right intention. This position comes from Fr. Pierre-Marie, OP ( who is with Avrille which is now with the Resistance)

    https://www.google.com/url?                    sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjNuI2D0afqAhXsl3IEHRBYAx0QFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsspx.org%2Fen%2Fvalidity-new-rite-episcopal-consecrations&usg=AOvVaw2Zxd1V-qBeinP30rWQhBEy

    Any Resistance faithful who criticize the Society on this point have therefore shown themselves to be ignorant numbskulls

    Let's discuss the validity of the Novus ordo ordination rite, one of the "bastardized" rites, according to Bishop Tissier.

    I don't think you want to go there... millennial trad-boy.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #36 on: July 04, 2021, 01:59:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 29, 2020, 08:57:37 AM
    His name is not mentioned amongst the 2010 Winona ordinands at the end of this lead article of the Regina Coeli Report (see last paragraph, p.2):

    http://archives.sspx.org/rcr_pdfs/2010_rcrs/august_2010_rcr.pdf

    Technically possible he was ordained at one of the other seminaries that year, but given the fact he has been assigned to Syracuse/Warners (whose liberal faithful have a history of accepting not only abortive vaccines, but also Novus Ordo refugees who were not conditionally ordained, like Fr. Voigt, Fr. Gallagher, and possibly others), it doesn’t seem likely.

    The question now remains: Was he conditionally ordained?

    For an answer to that question, you need only ask him, which is your right.


    Father Feeney is on record as telling his faithful in the Pittston chapel, specifically NOT to ask him if he was conditionally ordained.


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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #37 on: July 04, 2021, 02:39:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: tdrev123 on July 04, 2021, 01:34:02 PM
    In my own house 2 years ago he told me he was not reordained and the sspx accepted his ordination as valid.  
    Perhaps we have another situation like Fr. Hesse:  Old Rite bishop giving New Rite ordination.  For me, that is still doubtful (albeit less doubtful), but I can see the SSPX being totally fine with it. 
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #38 on: July 04, 2021, 03:05:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on July 04, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
    That's likely because you believe the Novus Ordo ordinations are valid, no?
    I do not believe with certainty of faith that the new rite of ordination, and the new formula for the consecration of a bishop are valid, therefore, if Fr. Feeney is ordained in the new rite or his ordinating bishop was consecrated in the new formula, I do not believe he is a priest.

    😂 I’m arguably the biggest skeptic on here of NO ordinations. 
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #39 on: July 04, 2021, 03:41:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 04, 2021, 01:59:49 PM

    Father Feeney is on record as telling his faithful in the Pittston chapel, specifically NOT to ask him if he was conditionally ordained.
    That seems sketch even to me.. and I'm more on the side of tending to think new ordinations are valid.... like why would you be afraid of this?
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #40 on: July 04, 2021, 07:58:11 PM »
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    • I am actually more worried if young presumably priests were validly baptized in the first place. For instance, fr. Albert OP was conditionally baptized at some point.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #41 on: July 04, 2021, 08:17:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on July 04, 2021, 03:41:31 PM
    That seems sketch even to me.. and I'm more on the side of tending to think new ordinations are valid.... like why would you be afraid of this?

    I've heard of stories of priests blowing-up over questions about ordinations.  I think their position is, "Why is this lay person scrutinizing my Orders?"

    But all the same, we're in the heat of the battle and rightfully need reassurance of our Holy religious's Orders.

    I recall Father Voigt is rather proud that he had been conditionally ordained, at least two times.   He admitted his mistakes but is proudly in the fold now.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #42 on: July 07, 2021, 06:27:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: andy on July 04, 2021, 07:58:11 PM
    I am actually more worried if young presumably priests were validly baptized in the first place. For instance, fr. Albert OP was conditionally baptized at some point.
    Thats a great point, and how about the bishop that did the ordination?  I mean it just becomes a rabbit hole of what ifs which is exactly what Pius XII was trying to get rid of.  
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #43 on: October 09, 2021, 11:45:51 AM »
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    • Fr. Christopher Feeney was conditionally ordained, according to my sspx priest. I'm not sure if this was done recently or a long time ago. Conditional ordinations are usually kept hidden from the public.
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    Re: Father Christopher Feeney sspx
    « Reply #44 on: October 09, 2021, 12:02:43 PM »
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    • Catholic Candle says:

    'So-called “father” Christopher Paul Feeney Supposedly ordained in 2010 in the conciliar church of the diocese of Norwalk, CT. The “new” SSPX has been sending the man on a “mass” circuit. Source: a Catholic Candle contributor and reader.'

    Honestly Catholic Candle has an unusual home alone version of SSPX Resistance who is very definite that Francis is Pope, but there are no safe Masses in the whole US. CC also holds that sedes cannot ordain or be consecrated, so the 'so called' form of words is used for those who don't have old diocesan or SSPX orders.

    Anyhow, there's no evidence Fr Feeney was conditionally ordained.



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