I love fr Ripperger he saved my life. I’d had never heard a lecture on virtues until I came across his work on YouTube. I’m sure trads will trash him but he’s out there doing Gods work and saving protesters from the abyss. No trads are out there reaching lost souls. They are too busy arguing about the shape of the earth and the way mass is conducted. He’s meeting people where the rubber hits the road saving saving people who otherwise wouldn’t know what traditional catholic even means.He is a novus ordo priest meaning it's doubtful he has any sacramental power (which is a big problem for his so called exorcisms). The only people he is really helping are those that use him as a stepping stone and move into tradition.
He is a novus ordo priest meaning it's doubtful he has any sacramental power (which is a big problem for his so called exorcisms). The only people he is really helping are those that use him as a stepping stone and move into tradition.Are you willing to bet your soul he’s never performed a legitimate exorcism? Because that is a serious accusation. If you’re right that’s damning. If you’re wrong though……. that’s damning. Are you that positive your assumption is correct?
Are you willing to bet your soul he’s never performed a legitimate exorcism? Because that is a serious accusation. If you’re right that’s damning. If you’re wrong though……. that’s damning. Are you that positive your assumption is correct?
I love fr Ripperger he saved my life. I’d had never heard a lecture on virtues until I came across his work on YouTube. I’m sure trads will trash him but he’s out there doing Gods work and saving protesters from the abyss. No trads are out there reaching lost souls. They are too busy arguing about the shape of the earth and the way mass is conducted. He’s meeting people where the rubber hits the road saving saving people who otherwise wouldn’t know what traditional catholic even means.
The most interesting thing he ever said was, they (the exorcists) noticed a significant drop in their ability to cast out demons after 1965 and ever since then the demons are much, much harder to expel.
Yes ... though Father Amorth said that same thing, and actually attributed it to a defective new Rite, but I don't think Fr. Ripperger gave the same reason for it.I listened to a talk once where he inferred it was because of Vatican II - but in a very hush, hush, kind of matter - like, "wink, wink, we know that had something to do with it."
Stop being a snowflake because you have some emotional attachment to him. What he teaches people about Deliverance is crap ... has no foundation whatsoever in Tradition, and it's incredibly dangerous if he's wrong. If he's not wrong, he just got lucky, but there's no validation for his core assertion that laity are permitted to issue commands to demons if the demons are afflicting someone who's under their authority. None. But it's a huge gamble to play this game, and there's a reason the Church has never encouraged it. In fact, if you're not a sedevacantist, and Ripperger is not, Ratzinger, when he was purportedly head of the Holy Office, actually condemned the practice. So why's Ripperger not obeying Ratzinger?I can’t have too much of an emotional attachment to him because he taught me about detachment a phrase I had not heard in my youth as a Catholic or in my adulthood in the protest circles. The attack is only an attack if you perceive a possibility it’s a good point. If God is using him to drive out demons and point lost souls to tradition that is a terrible accusation to say he is not. Then on the other hand if he’s some poser chasing money the coin is flipped. That seems fair to me. You’re exaggerating his position on not only the amount of possession that occurs but also his remedy for it. He begs people “ if they believe they are receiving some type of demonic affliction that the sacraments are the best minor exorcism to rid themselves of the parasites” then he says if the problems persist to move up the chain through their priest and spiritual directors and he admits that .002% of these cases will actually need an exorcist and only half of those
That's one of the main reasons that even priests should only attempt Exorcisms on authority of their bishops, because the moment an Exorcist, even one who's a priest, starts to get cocky and act like HE is "doing battle" with Satan, that enrages Satan that this bag of puss-filled meat has the temerity to think he can do battle with Satan, and were it not for God preventing it, would shred the individual to pieces. But if the priest is merely acting as a delegate for Church authority, then no such dynamic can enter in to the picture where it's a battle of their wills or his holiness vs. the devil's evil, or other crap like that which Hollywood attempts to promote.
So none of your emotional snowflaking in the post above actually addresses the substance of this problem. You're just emoting and waxing hysterial about people attacking your precious Ripperger who's "reaching souls" and someone who "saved [your] life", etc. then idiotically launch into irrelevant ad hominem attacks.
He's certainly reaching people's pocketbooks, in a way that he never could have come CLOSE to doing had he not decided to capitalize on people's curiosity regarding subject related to demons, exorcism, possession, etc.
Such curiosity alone is incredibly dangerous. He actually encourages people to pray to Our Lady of Sorrows to find out the name or type of the demon that's afflicting them. What? As if by knowing his name we superstitiously have some power over them? That's actually the type of thing that Satanists and witches do, invoke them by name to get them to do their bidding. Also, he has this list of types of demons that go on for pages and pages, including, I kid you note ... a "demon of flatulence". So ... if I have a lot of gas, then it certainly could not have been that bean burrito from Taco Bell that I had for dinner, but it must be that dreaded demon of flatulence. While this example is a bit facetious (though he does list that demon), the point is that it can lead to mental problems and weird neuroses if you're seeing demons behind every bush, and behind every bad thing that happens. He talks about demons causing financial problems, and making business mistakes, and ... various health problems, and ... yes, flatulence. Catholics know that there are three sources of sin and or evil, and the devil is only one of them: the flesh, the world, and the devil. Sometimes we just make stupid decisions that cause financial problems, or have genetic issues or were exposesd to things that cause health problems, etc. ... there's not always some diabolical attack behind it. But if we start to view the world that way, where, if I drop a dish in the kitchen and it breaks, I'm running to my Deliverance book to go look up which demon may have been responsible instead of my having been clumsy, inatentive, or had slippery fingers due to wet hands.
It is PRECISELY when you being to start "interacting" with and "engaging" demons that you can give them entry points into your life. That is why things like ouija boards are so dangerous, because you start to interact with these beings you consider intelligent, and you're thereby rolling out the red carpet. So if you're no issuing commands to demons, i.e. communicating with them ... that's incredibly dangerous. True saintly spiritual writers, such as St. Francis de Sales, advise people to IGNORE the devil, and to focus on God, pray to Our Lady and the saints, knowing that they cannot hurt you if God does not permit it. He in fact likens the devil to a vicious dog on a chain who's barking ferociously, where it doesn't pose any danger, since it's chained up (by God) EXCEPT if you go near it out of curiosity.
That example reminded me of an old "Tom & Jerry" cartoon where Butch the dog is on a chain. Tom measured out how far the chain reached, and so he drew a little line in the sand. He would then go right up to the line, provoke the dog, and then when the dog reacted and came to the end of the chain, he started beating him as he barked. Finally, the dog got sick of it and erased the line in the sand, and then drew one a bit closer, to where it was within range of his change. Next time Tom tried that, he got savaged by the dog.
So the more we mess with things diabolical, go studying it, go in search of the demon's name, start communicating with it, issuing commands to it, acting like big shots who have superiority over them ... that's INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.
Father Ripperger's book should be put on the Index ASAP.
Refute the points made here or just shut up.
He also said that he and other exorcists have meetings and compare notes to stay on top of trends. He noticed that the % of actual possessions is always consistent, less than 5% of the population. But in the last 5 years, he and others estimate that demonic oppression has increased by 20-25%. That means, people who are oppressed by demons because of personal sins and/or dabbling in occult. This is a huge increase. The good news is, if these people turn to religion/prayer, they would be freed. The bad news is, most do not. So this affects the weakening of the Church, related to comments above.Fr. Palau (1302-1303 top of page)
What do you think about Fr. Ripperger?I knew an old dioscesan exorcist decades ago ( he was validly ordained) and very few people even knew what he did. He was a bit of a curmudgeon, stayed to himself and didn't speak much at all. If you had to call him all he said was yes or no and then hung -up. I never got the impression he was rude, but just maybe burnt out and distracted.
1) His doctrinal, philosophical, theological, and psychological writings
He seems sound in many of the main parts, but he will unfortunately be fine with Vatican II and the current modernist occupants insofar at least as to their basic minimal claims to authority. He always quotes St. John Eudes about God punishing the laity with bad clergy, but perhaps this is even more then if many of them are invalidly consecrated or ordained?
2) His writings on exorcism and whether or not the experiences he recounts are true
It seems to me that anyone who invokes the name or Our Lord against demons with the proper authority or context can do some kind of exorcism, but I don't know for sure how all of that works, even though Our Lord said that those who casted out demons in His name were not against Him but rather for Him.
I bet Ladislaus will post in this thread. :laugh1: Right, Ladislaus? I understand that there are issues with claiming authority over demonic spirits when it is very dangerous to do so.
In my experience, I have prayed the Deliverance and Auxilium Christianorum prayers. Perhaps they did not help and made things worse for me, but I'm not sure. I have not prayed them for some time.
I knew an old dioscesan exorcist decades ago ( he was validly ordained) and very few people even knew what he did. He was a bit of a curmudgeon, stayed to himself and didn't speak much at all. If you had to call him all he said was yes or no and then hung -up. I never got the impression he was rude, but just maybe burnt out and distracted.
It was apparent that what he did took a toll on him.
I have a hard time with all of the celebrity exorcists today....is it that easy to fight the greatest angelic intellect that G-d created without battle scars wearing you down?
Or do you just jovially go on to the next youtube video?
As for asking the names of these demons there is scriptural evidence Jesus had done the same. I’d say sunlight is the best disinfectant.
You’re exaggerating his position on not only the amount of possession that occurs but also his remedy for it.
Oh, I am doing absolutely nothing of the sort. I've listened to his talks. I bought his book (now consigned to a landfill, thankfully). Who said anything about "possession"? You appear to be the one not understanding. I'm talking about generic demonic attacks. I am not exaggerating the pages and pages of lists he has in his book about the different demons, some types, some names (where did he get those?) ... which afflict people in different ways. I've heard him speaking about demons causing financial problems, health problems, etc. And the remedy for that is right in his book, in the form of imprecatory prayer, where the layman will issue commands to demons ... in cases where the demons afflict someone in their authority.all authority is through Christ to command demons so your point “ if we have the authority to command them out we have the authority to command them to attack someone else “ is just false. No one assumes that to be so. And to ask who’s talking about possession 😵💫……. We’re talking about exorcist!!! They deal with possession. To thwart attacks, the greatest saints were attacked by demons constantly! This is of course common knowledge. So to the extent you can thwart them and petition to our lady and saint Michael is obviously in Gods hands. On this point fr Ripperger says nothing to the contrary. You say he encourages people to get curious about demons if as if it’s a bad thing. My generation was taught the whole notion was absurd and made up by religious institutions! How do you combat that without getting people curious about them.
There's simply no theological foundation for this that, if I have authority over someone I therefore have the authority to command demons that afflict them. None. I have asked his apologists to provide the evidence, and they pointed me to some passages in St. Alphonsus and St. Thomas that Fr. Ripperger has cited, but they say no such thing. So I'm still waiting.
Demons almost by definition go about defying God's authority to whatever extent they can or are permitted to. That's what they do. They are certainly not going to willingly obey my commands just because I have God-given authority over my wife or my son. In fact, if I try to invoke that authority, they would rage all the more against me, since they hate the fact that I have God-given authority at all, and they hate the God whose authority it is. It's only if God were to force them to obey, but we do not know that He does or will ... and it's an act of presumption to assume that He will without His having revealed anything along those lines to us, either directly or through the Church's teaching.
Now, if I invoke my God given authority to, say, (politely of course) command my son's Guardian Angel to take care of him, to ward off demons, and invoke the same authority to ask St. Michael or Our Lady to do the same, since my authority over my son is God's, they will honor that and obey, to the extent that they do not know it to run counter to God's will.
So, I've exaggerated nothing. I wasn't speaking about possession, but about demonic attack in general, which can take many forms. I've heard him speak about the many ways in which demons afflict people. I see the lists in his book with all the types of demons, their names, etc. I see him encouraging people to get curious about demons, try to find out which ones are afflicting your family and your loved ones. I hear him speaking about how demons can cause all kinds of things, such as financial difficulties, and, yes, even flatulence. AND he says very clearly that Catholics can issue commands to demons, and provides prayers for them to do exactly that. Whether you do it once or do it 100 times per day, it matters nothing. Fact is that he does promote this practice, and it's the foundation for his book, why it's so innovative, and novel, and nobody has thought of this before, except the Prots.
all authority is through Christ to command demons so your point “ if we have the authority to command them out we have the authority to command them to attack someone else “ is just false. No one assumes that to be so. And to ask who’s talking about possession 😵💫……. We’re talking about exorcist!!! They deal with possession. To thwart attacks, the greatest saints were attacked by demons constantly! This is of course common knowledge. So to the extent you can thwart them and petition to our lady and saint Michael is obviously in Gods hands. On this point fr Ripperger says nothing to the contrary. You say he encourages people to get curious about demons if as if it’s a bad thing. My generation was taught the whole notion was absurd and made up by religious institutions! How do you combat that without getting people curious about them.The point is that "Father" Ripperger, though has some good messages, is playing with fire. Truth is real and messing with demons is dangerous. When I found True Catholicism and jumped the NO ship, the first book I picked up was "The Rules for Discerning Spirits" based off of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola.
“Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”17 (http://biblehub.com/luke/10-17.htm)The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”18 (http://biblehub.com/luke/10-18.htm)He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 (http://biblehub.com/luke/10-19.htm)I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 (http://biblehub.com/luke/10-20.htm)However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”
Do you consider anything that’s going on in the church good? Or is everything post 1960 just terrible? I know a lot of people will not say anything good about it. I just can’t believe there is no hope. Fr Ripperger and fr G Hesse were my two biggest influences so I have bias for them. And I specifically remember fr. Hesse saying you can study any Saint long enough and find errors in their teachings. So I bend more to the good than the bad. And again I have to make the point, a woman was selling jarred farts online and they were selling them. If that is not diabolical I don’t know what diabolical is!!!
The point is that "Father" Ripperger, though has some good messages, is playing with fire. Truth is real and messing with demons is dangerous. When I found True Catholicism and jumped the NO ship, the first book I picked up was "The Rules for Discerning Spirits" based off of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola.We are all playing with fire. We are in a war.
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This little book changed my life. If you are very empathetic or sensitive to suggestions, then make sure you talk to a spiritual director before you read. I learned DO NOT LOOK FOR DEMONS. Work on your vices. Name them. Confess them. That is how you grow in holiness. NEVER ENGAGE WITH DEMONS. They are way smarter than us and know all our weaknesses.
The book is good because it helps you discern what is you and what isn't.
What do you think about Fr. Ripperger?I used to listen to Fr. Ripperger years ago, but his talks always felt as if somethings he said were off a bit, just not right, or something was amiss, not sure how to describe it, but then I came across this (https://isidore.co/misc/Res pro Deo/Ripperger/Merit of a Mass (Fr. Ripperger, F.S.S.P.).pdf) and have not listened to him ever since...
I used to listen to Fr. Ripperger years ago, but his talks always felt as if somethings he said were off a bit, just not right, or something was amiss, not sure how to describe it, but then I came across this (https://isidore.co/misc/Res pro Deo/Ripperger/Merit of a Mass (Fr. Ripperger, F.S.S.P.).pdf) and have not listened to him ever since...
"...Hence, in this respect every Mass has an infinite value. The new rite of Mass is just as efficacious as the old rite of Mass in this respect since they are both the same sacrifice of Christ..."
I used to listen to Fr. Ripperger years ago, but his talks always felt as if somethings he said were off a bit, just not right, or something was amiss, not sure how to describe it, but then I came across this (https://isidore.co/misc/Res pro Deo/Ripperger/Merit of a Mass (Fr. Ripperger, F.S.S.P.).pdf) and have not listened to him ever since...
"...Hence, in this respect every Mass has an infinite value. The new rite of Mass is just as efficacious as the old rite of Mass in this respect since they are both the same sacrifice of Christ...
Ripperger is bad news...STAY AWAY FROM RIPPERGER. Run, don't walk, but run in the opposite direction.