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Author Topic: Father Cekada Dying  (Read 12848 times)

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Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2020, 06:25:27 PM »
Agreed.

But how about answering the question?
I already did. They died(and weren't even saved as such, they went to Hell first of all) under the Old Covenant. Entirely different ruleset to what we have now. There was no baptism back then, so how could BOD have saved them? And again, they weren't even saved - they were sent to Hell before Christ freed them. Unless you're implying that implicit BOD can bring souls that are already in Hell to Heaven, the scenarios aren't even remotely comparable. Obviously the OT Fathers weren't condemned to eternal damnation for being "outside "of a Church that didn't yet exist or not professing faith in dogma that had not yet been revealed. None of that has anything to do with BOD which, as the first word of the acronym suggests, is a New Covenant concept.

Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2020, 07:25:24 PM »
Another example of  a writer that can't accept the dogmas on EENS as they are written, and therefore must seek someone to interpret them according to his desires. That is the difference, the strict EENSers believe the dogmas as they are written, the others refuse to accept them as they are written and seek teachers according to their own desires, quoting say St. Thomas Aquinas when he agrees, and throwing him under the bus when he does not. They are like Protestants, each one has his own individual belief, you never know who they believe can be saved where the rubber meets the road. A waste of time to debate with them on the matter because they themselves do not know what they believe, the only thing they have in common is that they do not believe in the dogmas on EENS as they are written.
Well, there we go again, right after my posting above the so-called BODers start to come out again, each one with his own belief of who can be saved. They talk about BOD as if they are talking about the same thing, but they all have their own belief of who can be saved, whether they desire to be Catholic and baptized or they have no desire whatsoever to be Catholic or baptized and everything in between. Each one with his own flavor, as many varieties of what they call BOD as there are non-Catholics.


Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2020, 07:36:50 PM »

It is so funny how this topic degenerated into an EENS/BOD argument.  :laugh1:

I’ll bet the Dimonds stole EENS from Father Wathen cause it added credibility to their sede schtick.

Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2020, 09:46:42 PM »
Well, there we go again, right after my posting above the so-called BODers start to come out again, each one with his own belief of who can be saved. They talk about BOD as if they are talking about the same thing, but they all have their own belief of who can be saved, whether they desire to be Catholic and baptized or they have no desire whatsoever to be Catholic or baptized and everything in between. Each one with his own flavor, as many varieties of what they call BOD as there are non-Catholics.
Tradhican quoting Tradhican yet again!
Sorry, I couldn't resist :facepalm:

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Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2020, 10:28:11 PM »
It is so funny how this topic degenerated into an EENS/BOD argument.  :laugh1:

I’ll bet the Dimonds stole EENS from Father Wathen cause it added credibility to their sede schtick.
Sorry, fellas, that's my fault. Someone cited the Dimonds as some sort of example of sedevacantists. I just wanted to set the record straight with those guys, but that wasn't really a relevant contribution in a thread devoted to paying last respects to Fr. Cekada.