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Offline ByzCat3000

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Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2020, 09:30:35 AM »
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    • Like I'm not saying the debate needs to stop everywhere or anything, but to specifically promote a book that is particularly targeting Fr. Cekada on a thread talking about how he's dying seems... yeah classless is the right word.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #31 on: September 11, 2020, 09:33:28 AM »
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    • https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/john-venarri-urgent/
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    When John Vennari was dying, there were a few autistic comments.  It was edifying to see the triviliazing and critical posts get down-thumbed into oblivion.  Matthew's post certainly was not as bad as some of the comments John got.  But I agree that it was classless.  I am sure that when Matthew is dying, he will hope that everyone who knows about it is more concerned with his soul than the financial prospects of registering the cathinfo.com domain.  Even if such comments are made in jest.
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    I am someone who has been very critical of some of Fr. Cekada's ideas in the past.  At the moment, I feel very close to ashamed for that because I realized last night when praying the litany of the dying for him, that I do not think I had ever prayed for him before.  Now's the time. 

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    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #32 on: September 11, 2020, 10:37:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mithrandylan on September 11, 2020, 09:33:28 AM
    https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/john-venarri-urgent/
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    When John Vennari was dying, there were a few autistic comments. 
    What are "autistic comments"?

    I am not SV, but neither can I say with certitude that SV is wrong.  I have my doubts, and the SV arguments make sense to me (a lot of them, anyway), but after much reflection, I simply cannot go sedevacantist.  I will just say, that in the end, I won't be surprised to learn that the SVs were right.  Neither will I be surprised to learn that they were wrong.  Or it could be a "not completely full, but not completely vacant" scenario.  It's all way above my pay grade.

    With all due respect to our good moderator, this isn't the time.  And quite aside from issues of propriety, why would the CDs become worthless once Fr Cekada has passed away?
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #33 on: September 11, 2020, 10:59:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on September 11, 2020, 10:37:51 AM
    What are "autistic comments"?
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    Comments made with an apparent and all but complete obliviousness to what basic social decorum calls for.  Comments that are so beyond what anyone would normally expect in the situation that the only charitable explanation seems to be a true inability to comprehend the basic conventions of civility and decency (i.e., autism). 
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    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #34 on: September 11, 2020, 11:00:43 AM »
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    • I have fond memories of Fr. Cekada's sense of humour.  I think he would have taken Matthew's comment as dark humour, rather than as classless, and been amused by it.  

    Father's book, Work of Human Hands was a great contribution to scholarship that SVs and non-SVs can both appreciate.  Even some NO supporters praised it.  Fr. Cekada also did a video series based on the book which made the information accessible to a wider audience.  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZygRnwBVymnpSzePpCJdZA

    It is certainly a time to focus on praying for him rather than arguing.  :pray:
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    Re: Father Cekada Dead
    « Reply #35 on: September 11, 2020, 11:01:15 AM »
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    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.

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    Re: Father Cekada Dead
    « Reply #36 on: September 11, 2020, 11:06:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matto on September 11, 2020, 11:01:15 AM
    http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=24470.msg511314#new

    https://novusordowatch.org/2020/09/father-anthony-cekada-rip/

    He is dead now.  
    We have been praying for his health for over a month, since I saw a posting about his condition here. We will now pray for his soul. 
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #37 on: September 11, 2020, 11:23:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on September 11, 2020, 09:29:48 AM
    Look, I'm on the non sede side of the argument.  This isn't the time.

    Perhaps you are right. Wouldn't want to put a damper on the canonization of St. Cekada, patron saint of the sedes and their supporters.

    Praying for his soul is a good a very good thing to do. That doesn't mean that he hasn't led souls into serious error.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #38 on: September 11, 2020, 11:25:38 AM »
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    • Novus Ordo Watch

    In the 09/11/2020 edition:

    Father Anthony Cekada, R.I.P. (1951-2020)
    Posted on Sep 11, 2020 11:51 am
    Sedevacantist pioneer has died…

    Father Anthony Cekada, R.I.P. (1951-2020)

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    The sedevacantist priest, author, and seminary professor Fr. Anthony Cekada has died at his parish residence in West Chester, Ohio. This was announced moments ago on Twitter by Bp. Daniel Dolan, pastor of St. Gertrude’s Church:
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    Fr. Cekada had been suffering from complications after a series of strokes.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #39 on: September 11, 2020, 11:26:45 AM »
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    • Though I did not see eye to eye with Fr. Cekada on the pope issue, I liked him personally, respected his intellect, and was grateful to him for his charitable email responses to various theological questions over the last few years.

    I will be particularly grateful for the part he played at SGG in preserving the true/fully traditional pre-Pius XII Holy Week rites.

    I will miss him, but I will never forget him.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #40 on: September 11, 2020, 12:02:37 PM »
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    • May the angels lead thee into Paradise; may the martyrs receive thee at thy coming, and bring thee into the holy city, Jerusalem. May the choir of angels receive thee, and with Lazarus, who once was poor, mayest thou have eternal rest.

    Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord; and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace. Amen.  

    :pray:
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #41 on: September 11, 2020, 12:06:25 PM »
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    • May he rest in peace.  I finally found his book for a reasonable price last night and ordered it.  I had tried to get a copy when I first came to Tradition, but it was selling for like $800.  I have heard that it deals with the Mass alone and does not get into the sede debate.  I did not agree with his positions on the Pope or the society, but I found plenty of what he had to say about other things to be edifying.  I am sad to hear of his death, and will pray for him.  As far as leading souls into Hell, I think that’s pretty strong.  God did not set up our salvation as a riddle or crossword puzzle to be figured out.  If people are confused about the state of the Church, about who the Pope is, or whether the Seat is vacant or not, as long as they act in good conscience to serve Our Lord with sincere obedience, if the confusion has led them to wrong conclusions about which position to take, I don’t think that God will hold that against them in the Judgement.  If, on the other hand, a priest is tell people to sin, to receive Communion after divorce, to tolerate sodomites and abortionists, then people who follow that priest will certainly be held accountable.  Because their own Catholic sense should have been screaming at them that these teachings were against God and His Church.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #42 on: September 11, 2020, 12:15:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 11, 2020, 11:23:07 AM
    Perhaps you are right. Wouldn't want to put a damper on the canonization of St. Cekada, patron saint of the sedes and their supporters.

    Praying for his soul is a good a very good thing to do. That doesn't mean that he hasn't led souls into serious error.
    What a vile thing to say. 
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #43 on: September 11, 2020, 12:27:47 PM »
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    •  :pray:
    Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord; and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace. Amen. 
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #44 on: September 11, 2020, 12:40:15 PM »
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    • Requiescat in pace.   :pray:
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