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Quote from: fast777

There's another problem,the NO Mass is said in the Narrative:

"However, the celebrant must intend to do what the Church does. The Novus Ordo Missae will no longer in and of itself guarantee that the celebrant has this intention. That will depend on his personal faith (generally unknown to those assisting).

Therefore, these Masses can be of doubtful validity.

The words of consecration, especially of the wine, have been tampered with. Has the “substance of the sacrament” (cf., Pope Pius XII quoted in principle 5) been respected? While we should assume that despite this change the consecration is still valid, nevertheless this does add to the doubt."

SSPX web site

If you compare the two.  You will see how the new location of a period alters the meaning of the consecration.  Off the top of my head.

For you and for all.  So that sins may be forgiven.

For you and for many unto the remission of sins.  Perhaps someone can get exact quotes for us.

Consecration of the Wine

For this is the chalice of my blood of the new and eternal testament: the mystery of Faith: which shall be shed for you and for many unto the remission of sins.

Hic est enim Calix Sanguinis mei, novi et aeterni testamenti: mysterium fidei: qui pro vobis et pro multis effundetur in remissionem peccatorum.

Here is the Novus Ordo Latin Formula:

Accipite et bibite ex eo omnes: Hic est Enim Calix Sanguines mei, Novi et aeterni Testamenti, Qui pro vobis et pro multis Effundtur in remissionem peccatorum, (Hoc facite In meam commemorationem). This part in parenthesis was added on to the consecration formula and changed from the Latin Mass (Heac quotiescuмque faceritis, in mei memoriam facie tis).

Mysterium fidei has been removed from the formula and put after the formula.

The Novus Ordo translation in English is even more faulty and is not even an exact translation of the Novus Ordo Latin formula which still contains the " pro multis" (for many, not all). Here it is:

Take this, all of you, and drink from it: this is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new And everlasting covenant.  It will be shed for You and for all men so that sins may be forgiven.  Do this in memory of me.

The change "for all men" in the Holy Eucharist, the substance of the sacraments, cannot have been validly or legitimately.  The matter of the Sacrifice of the Mass is the host (made from only wheat and water) and wine; and the form are the words.  In the Consecration of the Precious Blood, the Form has actually changed by other parts have been added (Accipite et bibite ex eo omens and Hoc facite In meam commemorationem) and some removed from the formula (Mysterium fidei).

Infallibly the Church has taught:

Pope ST Pius X: "It is well known that the Church there belongs no right whatsoever to innovate anything touching the substance of the Sacraments". Thus even the Church Herself has no power or authority to alter the words or matter in the form of a Sacrament.

Pope Pius XII: " As the Council of Trent teaches the seven sacraments  of the New Law have all been instituted by Jesus Christ, Our Lord, and the Church has no power over the "substance of the sacraments".

The first sentence of the Mass

I will go in unto the Altar of God.



To God, Who giveth joy to my youth.
     
       
Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy: deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man.
R. For Thou, O God, art my strength: why hast Thou cast me off? and why do I go sorrowful whilst the enemy afflictech me?
V. Send forth Thy light and Thy truth: they have led me and brought me unto Thy holy hill, and into Thy tabernacles.
R. And I will go in unto the Altar of God: unto God, Who giveth joy to my youth.
V. I will praise Thee upon the harp, O God, my God: why art thou sad, O my soul? and why dost thou disquiet me?
R. Hope thou in God, for I will yet praise Him: Who is the salvation of my countenance, and my God.
V. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
R. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.


V. I will go in unto the Altar of God.
R. Unto God, Who giveth joy to my youth.

V. Our help  is in the Name of the Lord.
R. Who hath made heaven and earth

I beleive that, in regard to sacramental validity, the following authoritatively settled what is meant by "intention":

Quote from: Pope  Leo XIII

The Church does not judge about the mind and intention, in so far as it is something by its nature internal; but in so far as it is manifested externally she is bound to judge concerning it. A person who has correctly and seriously used the requisite matter and form to effect and confer a sacrament is presumed for that very reason to have intended to do (intendisse) what the Church does. On this principle rests the doctrine that a Sacrament is truly conferred by the ministry of one who is a heretic or unbaptized, provided the Catholic rite be employed. On the other hand, if the rite be changed, with the manifest intention of introducing another rite not approved by the Church and of rejecting what the Church does, and what, by the institution of Christ, belongs to the nature of the Sacrament, then it is clear that not only is the necessary intention wanting to the Sacrament, but that the intention is adverse to and destructive of the Sacrament.

Leo XIII, Apostolicae Curae, 18 September 1896.

Although this was written with particular reference to the Sacrament of Holy Order, I believe that the underlying principle applies to every Sacrament.

It seems to be arguable that the necessary intention is wanting to the Novus Ordo Missae, precisely because, by it, the rite of Mass WAS “changed, with the manifest intention of introducing another rite not approved by the Church and of rejecting what the Church does, and what, by the institution of Christ, belongs to the nature of the Sacrament”.

The Latin Mass follows this. The NO I do not think does. At best it is questionable.

The Priest declares his intention by reading the Mass, It is clearly stated therefore it is valid. In the NO that does not happen.