Trent - ON THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS
CANON VI.--If any one saith, that the canon of the mass contains errors, and is therefore to be abrogated; let him be anathema.
And there are ways to prevent him from lying and compel him to tell the Truth.
which is absolutely false and makes a mockery of the Teaching Church's Indefectibility
Caraffa is correct. These same exorcisms also stated in the 1980s that John Paul II was a heretic and a false pope and that the SSPX would fall apart if they were to one day "stretch out a hand" to present-day Rome.
E: Is the liturgy he follows good? Tell the truth, in the name of Jesus!
J: The liturgy he follows is the only good one.
Any way you could get those quotes? It would be amusing to watch XavierFem suddenly backpeddle and claim that the exorcisms are suddenly unreliable.
Beelzebub: recite the prayer of the Angel of Fatima (it is recited). The Most Holy Body of Christ, which should be worshipped with great veneration, is desecrated. Frequently, It is no longer placed on the tongue, but given in the hand and treated as if it were a piece of bread. The false Pope himself is no better. He is at the top and gives the Blessed Sacrament in his hand, when he decides and as he pleases. Therefore, he is never in the spirit of the Most High and of the Church. He is not Pope. He who orients himself according to him, goes down the wrong path. This also applies to.... I don't want to talk!
Beelzebub: If now the flower of Holy Church, called Ecône, is reaching out to Rome, what will come of it? What will happen? The confusion is growing and has reached its peak. Ecône cannot listen to Rome!
Cardinal Ratzinger, who was called to Rome, followed his ambition more than the call of GOD and what the Holy Spirit made him hear in his soul. This cannot be good. Ratzinger soon saw what was happening in Rome; at least a large part of it. But he said "A", he now has to say "B" too, and he says "B" too. He could still go away and get off now. But once you have fallen into Rome's traps, it is not easy to escape. Over there, the one who climbs now has no good food, his porridge is diluted... I don't want to talk!
Beelzebub: If a blessing is now given to Ecône by Rome, it will only be a dubious and evil blessing that will not be followed by anything good. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR ECÔNE NOT TO DESIRE SUCH A THING, but to continue the road that must be followed, until Heaven Itself intervenes, which will intervene soon. I don't want to talk!
Beelzebub: Ecône is a good Church, a Church recognized from Above, even if today's Rome does not recognize it. This is not yet openly declared because in their hearts, those of Rome are harboring something evil. It won't be a real recognition! It's all a sham and a conspiracy. They, those of Rome, utterly detest the Catholic Church and Ecône in particular. They did not want in any way to promote the spirit of Ecône or to implement it, which is why they withheld their permission for so long.
He is not Pope.
Wojtyla allows that women speak in the microphone, before the altar; he also gives communion in the hand himself, etc. He allows these women to almost worship him, but also other faithful, I must add. He likes that women cling to him and he grants them all privileges, as the world and wordly priests grant them. He cannot be the true Pope, and he is not the true Pope. He is not the true Chief, as we have had to say many times... I don't want to say any more!
If everything took place according to the will of Wojtyla and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, the Church would really collapse. She would be destroyed. But the Most High is watching over the Church, as we have had to say previously. “And the Gates of Hell will not prevail against her”, said the Most High when he said to Peter: “You are Peter, the Rock; and on this Rock I will build my Church”,etc. But Peter being the rock, it would be unfair and devastating for men, for the faithful, if such an actor, if such a deceitful man who comes from abroad was able to completely ruin the Church, in this serious situation. I don't want to talk!
No, it is in fact you who make a mockery of the Church's indefectibility. That indefectibility would prevent not only the promulgation of an invalid Mass, but also the promulgation of a harmful or defective Mass that Catholics cannot attend in good conscience. If you claim that the V2 papal claimants were/are legitimate Popes, then you must accept the New Mass as intrinsically good (barring abuses in its implementation) and conducive to faith and piety.Isn't this the line of thinking of sedevacantists and the FSSP, though they arrive at opposite ends?
Isn't this the line of thinking of sedevacantists and the FSSP, though they arrive at opposite ends?
The SSPX (at least historically) did not agree with either of those.
Your are correct.At least one of us is seeing things, because the above is the only one that looks like a proper syllogism.
Sedevacantists and conservative Novus Ordites agree on the PRINCIPLE that the Church could not have erred so gravely.
SVism --
MAJOR: Church cannot err this gravely.
MINOR: Novus Ordo establishment has erred this gravely.
CONCLUSION: Novus Ordo establishment is not the Church.