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Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
« on: May 07, 2019, 05:41:29 PM »
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  •  :facepalm:
    I don't have words to describe this moronic concept.  The first thought that came to mind was the scene from the movie the Passion where Jesus was accused of invoking a devil to drive out devils.
    This time I think Rome is opening a can of worms it's going to sorely regret.  Worse than playing with a ouji board.
    I wonder if Pablo will attend.


    Exorcism goes mainstream: Combined Churches assemble in Rome to learn ‘best practice’ eviction of demons
    Jamie SeidelNews Corp Australia Network
    May 7, 2019 3:51PM

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    Exorcism is going multi-denominational. Where once those competing for the souls of followers would burn each other as heretics and engage in bloody wars, the world’s mainstream Christian denominations are now rallying together to battle a resurrected threat.
    And that’s no less than Satan himself.
    The Roman Catholic Church has for the first time opened up its annual exorcism class in Rome to representatives of all major Christian faiths. The Pontifical University of Regina Apostolorum is a Vatican-affiliated university in Rome has been conducting the increasingly popular annual exorcism conventions for Catholic priests for the past 14 years.
    But now the doors of the 14th Exorcism and Prayer of Liberation Coursehas been thrown open to groups once considered heretical and demon-infested only a few short centuries ago.

    Now some 250 Catholics, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox and Protestant priests have assembled to arm themselves with the sword of the holy word to battle Satan amid the souls of their parishoners.
    It is itself a dark art, born of a dark age.
    The Catholic Church, however, insists demonic possession is on the rise.
    In 2014, it formally recognised the ancient ritual of exorcism under Canon Law at gave official approval to the formal creation of the International Association of Exorcists.
    It blames the secularisation of society (separation of religion and state) along with the increasing popularity of competing religions, tarot readings, astrology, the internet and atheism for opening the demonic floodgates.
    And the best way to fix this, it believes, is to tackle the ‘possessed’ head-on.

    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


    Offline Stubborn

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 06:45:14 AM »
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  •  I second the motion.
    :facepalm:
    For a small gain they travel far; for eternal life many will scarcely lift a foot from the ground. - Thomas A Kempis


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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 10:36:59 AM »
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  • Perhaps this joint convocation is an attempt to stomp on the Devil, but the evil spirits will say "Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you?" (Acts 19:15)

    Next, all these denominations will be celebrating the Lord's Supper together.

    Some have been "sharing the Eucharist" perhaps under the guise that more ministers will have more power.  Do they sense that they are losing power as individuals or is this just a way to boost their own self esteem and continue to lead their denominations astray?  

    More modernism leads to more ecumenism. Soon the world's religions will unite under the Antichrist.

    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 11:07:45 AM »
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  • It all boils down to Rome teaching lay people to invoke the devil.
    They are NOT ordained!  They are literally playing with the fire of hell.
    I believe this will unleash even more evil.
    This should scare the hell out of us all.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #4 on: May 08, 2019, 11:54:52 AM »
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  • "We were able to reach Lucifer at his summer condo in South Gehenna, to ask him what he thinks about laymen, heretics and schismatics being able to perform exorcisms. . . . ."

     Keep it up Frankie baby!


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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #5 on: May 10, 2019, 01:33:39 AM »
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  • Will the CMRI be participating?

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #6 on: May 10, 2019, 02:35:11 AM »
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  • I never realised you had a sense of humour, Poche! :jester:

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #7 on: May 10, 2019, 11:17:36 PM »
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  • I never realised you had a sense of humour, Poche! :jester:
    There was an incident where the CMRI priest was able to drive out a demon where the Novus Ordo priest was unsuccessful.


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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #8 on: May 11, 2019, 09:14:30 PM »
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  • There was an incident where the CMRI priest was able to drive out a demon where the Novus Ordo priest was unsuccessful.
    Tell me more.  
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 10:52:56 PM »
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  • Tell me more.  
    There is not much that can be said. It was confirmed that there was an attempt by a Novus Ordo priest to exorcize someone. That attempt failed. A CMRI priest made an attempt and was successful.  

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #10 on: May 12, 2019, 02:33:40 AM »
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  • Below is an exorcism account from 1800's. This exorcism is relevant because of the involvement of Protestant ministers and the devil telling the Protestant ministers that they are in league with him, and do his work.

     The Exorcism of Nicola Aubrey 


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    As the strange circumstances of Nicola's possession became known everywhere, several Calvinist preachers came with their followers, to "expose this popish cheat," as they said. On their entrance, the devil saluted them mockingly, called them by name, and told them that they had come in obedience to him. One of the preachers took his Protestant prayer-book, and began to read it with a very solemn face. The devil laughed at him, and, putting on a most comical look, he said: "Ho! Ho! My good friend; do you intend to expel me with your prayers and hymns? Do you think that they will cause me any pain? Don't you know that they are mine? I helped to compose them!" 

     

    "I will expel thee in the name of God," said the preacher, solemnly.

     

    "You!" said the devil, mockingly. "You will not expel me either in the name of God, or in the name of the devil. Did you ever hear of one devil driving out another?" 

     

    "I am not a devil," said the preacher, angrily, "I am a servant of Christ."

     

    "A servant of Christ, indeed!" said Satan, with a sneer. "What! I tell you are worse than I am. I believe, and you do not want to believe. Do you suppose that you can expel me from the body of this miserable wretch? Ha! Go first and expel all the devils that are in your own heart!"

     

    The preacher took his leave, somewhat discomfited. On going away, he said, turning up the whites of his eyes, "O Lord, I pray thee, assist this poor creature!"

     

    "And I pray Lucifer," cried the evil spirit, "that he may never leave you, but may always keep you firmly in his power, as he does now. Go about your business, now. You are all mine, and I am your master." 
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #11 on: May 12, 2019, 02:35:28 AM »
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  • The Vatican II church and Protestant churchmen, just the same dung in different packaging. 
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #12 on: May 12, 2019, 05:27:25 AM »
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  • There is not much that can be said. It was confirmed that there was an attempt by a Novus Ordo priest to exorcize someone. That attempt failed. A CMRI priest made an attempt and was successful.  
    I found this old CI thread about it.  
    https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/exorcism-performed-by-two-cmri-priests/

    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #13 on: May 12, 2019, 09:59:01 AM »
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  • There is not much that can be said. It was confirmed that there was an attempt by a Novus Ordo priest to exorcize someone. That attempt failed. A CMRI priest made an attempt and was successful.  

    I'm fairly sure that Bp. Robert McKenna performed successful exorcisms. He was sedevacantist. or maybe sedeprivationist (I don't quite remember).

    It seems that apostolic succession is needed to perform a valid exorcism, and of course the protestants don't have that. And the Novus Ordo priests, even if they may have a valid ordination, they use the new prayers of exorcism, which aren't as potent as the old prayers of exorcism.

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    Re: Exorcism: Devils drive out devils?????
    « Reply #14 on: May 13, 2019, 08:04:12 AM »
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  • I'm fairly sure that Bp. Robert McKenna performed successful exorcisms. He was sedevacantist. or maybe sedeprivationist (I don't quite remember).

    It seems that apostolic succession is needed to perform a valid exorcism, and of course the protestants don't have that. And the Novus Ordo priests, even if they may have a valid ordination, they use the new prayers of exorcism, which aren't as potent as the old prayers of exorcism.
    Many of the Fathers of the Desert cast out demons. Most of them were monks. 

     

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