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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 05, 2018, 07:16:36 AM

Title: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 05, 2018, 07:16:36 AM
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/4/ewtn-live-mass-interrupted-screaming-man/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 05, 2018, 07:24:46 AM
And no name or picture of this man.  And police didn't release info to media.  
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: JezusDeKoning on November 05, 2018, 09:41:02 AM
Many people want the Mass of holy St. Pius V to be the Mass of the Roman Rite once more, as it used to be for thousands of years. 99% of this forum included. 

This is not the way to make that desire known -- not at all. He is in my prayers.
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Seraphina on November 05, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
Unfortunately, this soul is well intentioned but not playing with a full deck.  So of course he's portrayed as a typical traditionalist!  
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: roscoe on November 05, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Could be a LARP.... :chef:
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Neil Obstat on November 05, 2018, 07:53:30 PM
And no name or picture of this man.  And police didn't release info to media.  
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That's so later on, they can claim it was anyone they want it to be, for convenience. For example they could say it was poche.
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And then again, maybe it didn't happen at all that way. If he was incoherent how can they be sure WHAT he was demanding, if anything?
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 06, 2018, 06:01:49 AM
I saw and heard video because someone had copy.  
I never thought any thing would happen in Alabama like that. And foul language too.  He is not a trad at.   
If he has mental problems where are his guardians?
And now where is he?  Back on streets?  
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: klasG4e on November 06, 2018, 12:02:14 PM
The following link contains a video clip of the incident:

https://churchpop.com/2018/11/04/belligerent-man-charges-altar-during-ewtn-live-mass-michael-warsaw-issues-statement/ (https://churchpop.com/2018/11/04/belligerent-man-charges-altar-during-ewtn-live-mass-michael-warsaw-issues-statement/)
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Nadir on November 07, 2018, 02:17:19 AM
It appears that some invisible entity jerked the chalice, which the priest seemingly had to grasp back. It certainly wasn't the man as he was not close enough to the chalice.
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Last Tradhican on November 07, 2018, 07:10:46 AM
Anyone understand what he was saying? 
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Ladislaus on November 07, 2018, 07:38:26 AM
It appears that some invisible entity jerked the chalice, which the priest seemingly had to grasp back. It certainly wasn't the man as he was not close enough to the chalice.

No, that was just the priest flinching; he was startled, and nearly dropped the chalice.
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Nadir on November 07, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
I've watched that a few times since your explanation, Ladi, but it appeared to me that the priest was unaware of the man at the point in which the chalice jerked in his hands. Perhaps the clip starts a little too close to the incident to judge.
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Ladislaus on November 07, 2018, 02:59:35 PM
I've watched that a few times since your explanation, Ladi, but it appeared to me that the priest was unaware of the man at the point in which the chalice jerked in his hands. Perhaps the clip starts a little too close to the incident to judge.

I disagree.  Right as recovered control of the chalice he was looking at the guy.  He obviously heard the commotion as he was in the motion of the elevation, was startled by the noise, stabilized the chalice, and then looked intently at the commotion.  We really don't need to posit some demonic force grabbing a chalice here.  Just look at his eyes right as the his arm starts jerking.  If it were a motion and no noise, he'd be looking at the chalice and not beyond the chalice to whatever was happening there.
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Mithrandylan on November 08, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
Doesn't bother me all that much.  Not tactful.  But righteously indignant?  Seems like it.  Guy just has an anger problem, lots of people do.  Sounds like the poor fella had one too many Novus Ordos... video starts immediately after the Pro Multis (who knows how the priest said it?)... then first thing the guy says is "that's it!  That's enough!"
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Amen. 
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: poche on November 11, 2018, 12:11:12 AM
My father told the story of how a lunatic stabbed the priest while he was giving out communion. The priest went to the hospital. When he was better the priest was released from the hospital. My father said how he was very impressed to see the priest back at the altar and giving out communion to the people as before. 
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 11, 2018, 12:15:17 AM
No Decent Christian use cuss words of satan. 
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: dymphnaw on November 12, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
It appears that some invisible entity jerked the chalice, which the priest seemingly had to grasp back. It certainly wasn't the man as he was not close enough to the chalice.
No. Fr. Mendez was just startled by the crazy guy who apparently thinks he is Jesus and should be put away instead of just charged with trespassing. Fortunately the chapel has armed guards.
Title: Re: EWTN Mass interrupted at Consecration by man cussing and wanted traditional Mass
Post by: Mithrandylan on November 15, 2018, 11:52:57 AM
No Decent Christian use cuss words of satan.
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St. Thomas More famously used some pretty nasty cuss words against Luther.