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Author Topic: Is there evidence that +Thuc ordinations are invalid?  (Read 3110 times)

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is there evidence that +Thuc ordinations are invalid?
« Reply #165 on: Today at 05:20:02 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Today at 05:16:56 PM

Bro,  I KNOW you read the other posts where I posted the longer form stuff because you were posting on the same threads!

So you're pretending not to know and demanding I rehash long posts everytime to make me dance to your tune.
I don't want your opinion, or your explanation, I want proof (docuмents, recordings, articles).  Marie Dolorosa has posted good info and i've responded.  What further info do you have?  
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Is there evidence that +Thuc ordinations are invalid?
« Reply #166 on: Today at 05:36:02 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on Today at 05:20:02 PM
I don't want your opinion, or your explanation, I want proof (docuмents, recordings, articles).  Marie Dolorosa has posted good info and i've responded.  What further info do you have? 
Learn how to read and search the forum.
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Offline Maria Dolorosa

Re: Is there evidence that +Thuc ordinations are invalid?
« Reply #167 on: Today at 05:39:25 PM »
Lazarus, you are misunderstanding what I have written. You had the time and patience, and put in the effort to analyze and make judgements on my intelligence and style of thinking, instead of looking at evidence and Church teaching? Sounds more like an excuse and is a more subtle ad hominem. Your subtly exposes you like the slime left from a slug.

By gaslighting, I meant twisting what I have said, not rejecting something due to a legitimate disagreement.

Pax Vobis, PRUDENT DOUBT IS LITERALLY A TERM IN MORAL THEOLOGY AS I HAVE SHOWN IN THE LONG POST. Is that clear enough? I am not yelling, I am putting it in CAPS so that your eye is drawn here, because your eyes seem to be wandering all over the place in a disordered manner.

The more I explain, the more my words get manipulated. All I have done is share or paraphrase information from reputable sources.

I have never tried to force anyone here to doubt the +Thuc consecrations. I am here to inform, and I have done so to the best of my ability.

+Thuc people, if you’re so right, then why argue here? If you have the truth, who cares what others say?

I wish you all well.
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Offline Lazarus

Re: Is there evidence that +Thuc ordinations are invalid?
« Reply #168 on: Today at 06:11:35 PM »
Quote from: Maria Dolorosa on Today at 05:39:25 PM
Lazarus, you are misunderstanding what I have written. You had the time and patience, and put in the effort to analyze and make judgements on my intelligence and style of thinking, instead of looking at evidence and Church teaching? Sounds more like an excuse and is a more subtle ad hominem. Your subtly exposes you like the slime left from a slug.

By gaslighting, I meant twisting what I have said, not rejecting something due to a legitimate disagreement.

Pax Vobis, PRUDENT DOUBT IS LITERALLY A TERM IN MORAL THEOLOGY AS I HAVE SHOWN IN THE LONG POST. Is that clear enough? I am not yelling, I am putting it in CAPS so that your eye is drawn here, because your eyes seem to be wandering all over the place in a disordered manner.

The more I explain, the more my words get manipulated. All I have done is share or paraphrase information from reputable sources.

I have never tried to force anyone here to doubt the +Thuc consecrations. I am here to inform, and I have done so to the best of my ability.

+Thuc people, if you’re so right, then why argue here? If you have the truth, who cares what others say?

I wish you all well.
You did note provide us with any answer as to whom, exactly, has valid sacraments at all, assuming you are correct. Where else are we supposed to get our sacraments from, exactly, if we cannot get them from anyone of the Thuc line, nor from anyone from the Lefebvre line?

If the Church is gone, that simply means Catholicism is a false religion. Are you an apostate?

You seem quite desperate to cut off any chance at all for salvation of Catholics. First, you dare deny that catechumen martyrs are saved, then you dare deny that people who desire with all their heart the Catholic faith can be saved. Now, you dare deny that any Catholic in the world has any chance of salvation at all !!

Woman, are you directly working for Satan? That is the only way your behaviour makes any sense !! 

Your behaviour reminds me of this :

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is there evidence that +Thuc ordinations are invalid?
« Reply #169 on: Today at 06:27:10 PM »

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Pax Vobis, PRUDENT DOUBT IS LITERALLY A TERM IN MORAL THEOLOGY 
Moral theology has to do with…morals and the 10 commandments.  Canon law governs the sacraments and validity and rubrics and the liturgy.  That’s why you’re confused.  
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