Author Topic: changing the date of Easter? (Read 2206 times)

Maria Regina · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2016, 02:17:15 PM »

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At first glance, expecting Catholics to abandon Ash Wednesday to accept Ash Monday or Ash Sunday or whatever, seems impossible. But then considering how many other long-held traditions have been given up overnight, one can't presume to know what nonsense Catholics will endure in the future.

Wait and see, and don't be too surprised come what may.

The important thing is to know what the tradition is based on so you can know why and when to resist the novelties.

If Bergoglio and his bishops announce that henceforth, Easter is the third Sunday of April and Ash Wednesday will be transferred to the prior Sunday (they won't change it to Monday), the Novus Ordo community will accept it, no questions asked. In fact, many Conciliar apologists (e.g., EWTN, Catholic Answers, etc.) will praise the change with, "It's about time the Church fixed this problem."

The Indult community is another question. They may or may not go with the change. In the Indianapolis archdiocese, the Indult parish retains the 1962 calendar's date for the Feast of Christ the King while the Novus Ordo uses the new date for the Feast of Christ the King. It is possible that the Indult will use the traditional date while the Novus Ordo uses the new "fixed" date.

The R&R community will use the traditional date if the Indult community does so. What they will do if the Indult community uses the new "fixed" date is not something that, I think, anyone can know until (or if) it happens.

Catholics, on the other hand, will reject the novelty.

Can you imagine an Indult community going to the TLM to celebrate Palm Sunday with an outside procession while the Novus Ordo community in the same parish has just celebrated Easter and has Easter Lilies all over the altar area in the same church with new white linens? That will take a while to change unless the Indult community uses the side adoration altar.

Nadir · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2016, 02:57:13 PM »

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(they won't change it to Monday),

That's for sure. It's a matter of cutting down on work, i.e. time they have to spend in the church, shortage of priests, that sort of thing. Besides, isn't Monday golf day?

Maria Regina · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2016, 03:20:42 PM »

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(they won't change it to Monday),

That's for sure. It's a matter of cutting down on work, i.e. time they have to spend in the church, shortage of priests, that sort of thing. Besides, isn't Monday golf day?

Yes, the priests need time to recuperate on Mondays. That is the day to crash.

Prayerful · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2016, 03:34:21 PM »

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Since the NO did transfer Ascension Thursday to "Sunday", I have no doubt they would not hesitate to pick a fixed date for Easter. I just wonder what R&R groups will do, will they go along or will this prevent them from rejoining the NO? I suppose only time will tell.

Well, it's a good question, I suppose, since a lot of trads use the updated 1962 missal and others accept the first wave of changes (initiated by Annibale Bugnini) that happened before Pius XII died, and still others say that the first version of the Novus Ordo in Latin, 1970, is okay since it had only one Eucharistic Prayer (instead of 4).

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I think the Novus Ordo had even more than 4 Eucharistic prayers.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2016, 11:58:05 PM »

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Since the NO did transfer Ascension Thursday to "Sunday", I have no doubt they would not hesitate to pick a fixed date for Easter. I just wonder what R&R groups will do, will they go along or will this prevent them from rejoining the NO? I suppose only time will tell.

Well, it's a good question, I suppose, since a lot of trads use the updated 1962 missal and others accept the first wave of changes (initiated by Annibale Bugnini) that happened before Pius XII died, and still others say that the first version of the Novus Ordo in Latin, 1970, is okay since it had only one Eucharistic Prayer (instead of 4).

I think the Novus Ordo had even more than 4 Eucharistic prayers.

You may be right -- there may be more than 4 now. But after it first got going, for some 30 years there were just 4 options for the so-called Canon of Newmass, Eucharistic Prayers I, II, III and IV. (They even used Roman Numerals to make it look more credible!)

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