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Re: Eastern Rites
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2019, 03:16:08 PM »
Fr. Hesse's advice might be sound.  But it only makes sense in the context of a person who grew up in Catholicism at all.

Re: Eastern Rites
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2019, 03:30:38 PM »
Eastern liturgy is not the only issue when speaking on this topic. Addressing this a simply Eastern Rites is to look at this from an wholly Latin perspective, greatly distorting the matter. What is being discussed is eastern ritual CHURCHES, not merely different Rites. The Latin Church sui juris is unified in jurisdiction under the Papacy and has (today) very few rites, namely Roman, Ambrosian, Mozarabic, as well as some local usages. The Eastern Churches are 23 distinct Churches from the Latin Church which total collectively (all 24 Churches) comprise the communion that is the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. These 23 Eastern Churches have a wide variety of liturgical Rites. Some are Byzantine, like the Ruthenian, Ukrainian, and Melkite Churches. Some are Syriac, like the Chaldeans, Maronites, and Syro-Malabar Churches. And still others are Alexandrian in their liturgy, like the Coptic and Ethiopian Churches. Latin Catholics can freely attend the liturgies of the Eastern Catholic Churches, but formally joining them is an altogether different issue since that is moving from one Church to another Church. It is easier today to switch Churches, but once had to be done through a formal process at the level of the Roman curia.

I am wholly comfortable in the Byzantine Rite in its Slavic recension. In fact, I live much closer to both Ruthenian and Ukrainian parishes than to where I attend the Tridentine Mass. However, I am a Latin Catholic and will always call the Tridentine Mass home.


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Re: Eastern Rites
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2019, 04:07:53 PM »
Eastern liturgy is not the only issue when speaking on this topic. Addressing this a simply Eastern Rites is to look at this from an wholly Latin perspective, greatly distorting the matter. What is being discussed is eastern ritual CHURCHES, not merely different Rites. The Latin Church sui juris is unified in jurisdiction under the Papacy and has (today) very few rites, namely Roman, Ambrosian, Mozarabic, as well as some local usages. The Eastern Churches are 23 distinct Churches from the Latin Church which total collectively (all 24 Churches) comprise the communion that is the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. 
Um...the Pope has universal jurisdiction -- over anyone calling themselves Catholic.

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Re: Eastern Rites
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2019, 05:39:38 PM »
And technically we are all under jurisdiction of our local bishop so switching to an Eastern rite would have to be approved.  This assumes normal orthodox times...

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Eastern Rites
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2019, 06:03:09 PM »
I honestly don't know about your question at the end.

I'll say this: I don't know if you told me where you're from, but between other things you've said ("all my daughters' friends wear makeup", hostility experienced towards large families, and speaking of a variety of Eastern Rites being in your area, I'm thinking you're not in Texas, much less rural Texas)

Even in the 2nd largest city in Abraham Lincoln's home state, the Eastern Rites were a complete non-issue my whole life. If there were any, then no one I know was aware of them or even mentioned them -- pro, con or anything in-between.

Yep, there's a HUGE variety of such things up here in the Cleveland area.  Cleveland was THE Eastern European melting pot in the U.S. for about 30-40 years.