Author Topic: Eastern Rites (Read 19269 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2019, 06:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on March 12, 2019, 01:59:32 PM

Yes, because Modernism is dangerous to the Faith, just like it is today.

That doesn't sound right to me. I'm sure that if you would have asked Pope Pius XII in the 1950s whether you could be dispensed from your obligation because you lived in some rural area where there was only one Catholic Church accessible to you and the priest had modernist tendencies, he would reject the request. I think there's a significant difference between a Church with a completely intact official structure (intact Magisterium and hierarchy) and what we have today, a state of emergency that's systemic in the Church. I know that I would feel as if I were committing a mortal sin by missing my obligation in 1950 because Angelo Roncalli was the priest at my parish (and the Vatican had listed him as being suspect of Modernism).

Ladislaus · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2019, 06:10:38 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 12, 2019, 02:59:49 PM

Fr Hesse made the point that one should stick with the rite of Church that one grew up in. Obviously, times are so that fulfillment of one's sunday obligation makes attending Eastern rites necessary but his/Matthew's points are similar in that a Western-born mindset would be attuned to the Latin rite, while a person born in the East would gravitate towards the Eastern rites, all things being equal. I would think that some minor things in the West would be scandalous (at first) to an Eastern rite Catholic and vice versa.

Well, maybe, but the Church would readily allow people to switch Rites, primarily from Roman to Eastern, before Vatican II. There was reluctance in letting Easterns go Roman because of the risk that the Eastern Rites would eventually be swallowed up into the much more populous Roman Rite.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2019, 06:13:45 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 12, 2019, 05:39:38 PM

And technically we are all under jurisdiction of our local bishop so switching to an Eastern rite would have to be approved. This assumes normal orthodox times...

For formal switching, yes. For just attending Mass there and even registering at the parish, no. Formal switching entailed removing yourself from Roman jurisdiction and Roman Canon Law and subjecting yourself to Eastern Canon Law and jurisdiction. But there's no requirement for approval to regularly (even exclusively) ATTEND an Eastern Rite Liturgy.

ByzCat3000 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2019, 06:44:30 PM »

It seems like a lot of you were born Latin Rite Catholic, which I assume would explain the whole "having to get approval to switch" thing. But that wouldn't be relevant only for a person who had already converted.

What would be your thoughts on a Protestant *deciding* to convert to the Eastern Rite, as opposed to the Roman one?

Bellato · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2019, 07:18:11 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 12, 2019, 02:59:49 PM

Fr Hesse made the point that one should stick with the rite of Church that one grew up in. Obviously, times are so that fulfillment of one's sunday obligation makes attending Eastern rites necessary but his/Matthew's points are similar in that a Western-born mindset would be attuned to the Latin rite, while a person born in the East would gravitate towards the Eastern rites, all things being equal. I would think that some minor things in the West would be scandalous (at first) to an Eastern rite Catholic and vice versa.

The parish I go to is almost totally made up of Roman Rite refugees who have fled the Novus Ordo. There are only two elderly members of the parish left, the rest of the fairly good size parish are all from the Roman Rite, from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds that are not Eastern European.

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