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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2014, 07:34:49 PM »
Quote from: ascent
Orthodox are Catholic, but they're Catholics with defects.

No, they are not Catholic any more than the Protestants even though they have valid sacraments. They are all damned (except for those who die before they reach the age of reason), unless they convert to Catholicism, despite your belief which reeks of Novus Ordism.

Eastern Orthodox miracles
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 08:45:56 PM »
Quote from: Matto
despite your belief which reeks of Novus Ordism.


I'm the furthest Catholic away from novus ordo. I even resisted going to my grandmother's funeral because it was novus ordo. The novus ordo is also the antithesis of Orthodoxy.


Eastern Orthodox miracles
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2014, 08:53:03 PM »
Quote from: ascent
Quote from: Matto
despite your belief which reeks of Novus Ordism.


I'm the furthest Catholic away from novus ordo. I even resisted going to my grandmother's funeral because it was novus ordo. The novus ordo is also the antithesis of Orthodoxy.


Correction: I went to her funeral, but I waited in the vestibule the whole time. I did not go inside the chapel during the novus ordo funeral / mass.

Eastern Orthodox miracles
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2014, 09:36:12 PM »
Quote from: ascent
Quote from: Matto
despite your belief which reeks of Novus Ordism.


I'm the furthest Catholic away from novus ordo. I even resisted going to my grandmother's funeral because it was novus ordo. The novus ordo is also the antithesis of Orthodoxy.


No you are not. You share the belief with the Novus Ordo that those in schismatic Churches are Catholic and do not need to convert. The traditional Catholic Church has always taught that the schismatic "Orthodox" are not Catholic and are outside the Church.

Eastern Orthodox miracles
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2014, 09:51:00 PM »
Quote from: ascent
It's incredible that some people (except Cantarella) on this thread fallaciously leave open the possibility for a God-less partaker of Hollywood filth, Robin Williams, who died by ѕυιcιdє, which is a mortal sin, to make it to Heaven, but the Orthodox, including men and women in monasteries and convents, are "damned to perdition".


Repentance at death is always a possibility, but, of course, what is possible is not necessarily probable; it is wrong to presume, which is what the Novus Ordo is notorious for doing.  In any case, the following remains absolutely true:

1)  Individuals, under no circuмstances whatsoever, should take their own life, that is, commit ѕυιcιdє.  Such is always gravely sinful, and at a minimum, gravely risks eternal damnation, from which there is no escape.

2)  The Orthodox, as with every other human being without exception, should convert to Catholicism, the One True Faith.  Such is the infallible teaching of the Catholic Church:

Quote from: Fifth Lateran Council. 1512-17
Moreover, since subjection to the Roman pontiff is necessary for salvation for all Christ's faithful, as we are taught by the testimony of both sacred scripture and the holy fathers, and as is declared by the constitution of pope Boniface VIII of happy memory, also our predecessor, which begins Unam sanctam, we therefore, with the approval of the present sacred council, for the salvation of the souls of the same faithful, for the supreme authority of the Roman pontiff and of this holy see, and for the unity and power of the church, his spouse, renew and give our approval to that constitution, but without prejudice to the declaration of pope Clement V of holy memory, which begins Meruit .


http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Councils/ecuм18.htm

The above should remove any and all doubt that it is an infallible teaching of the Catholic Church that "submission to the Roman Pontiff" is necessarily for salvation, for all human beings, whoever they may be.