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E.Michael Jones interviewed by Voris
« on: July 06, 2013, 08:42:30 PM »
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  • I haven't actually watched the video yet but thought it would be of interest.

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    « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 06:44:37 AM »
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    This is 51:47 duration;  Michael Voris interviews E. Michael Jones
    in regards to the roots of Americanism in the Catholic Church,
    especially in America.  

    It's broken into about 4 segments, each of which deal with an
    aspect of this theme.  It's fast-paced and intense, and it could
    easily be expanded to several hours duration, but is here kept
    to a summary or highlights version for easy consumption.

    It boils down to John Courtney Murray and the acceptability of
    the work he did starting in 1960 to undermine Catholicism in this
    country.  Murray was not only the principal author of Dignitatis
    Humanae
    but also the key player in all the worst interpretations
    of DH post Vat.II, such that the most pernicious effects have
    been drawn from it in the form of false ecumenism and deplorable
    dialogue and religious indifferentism and moral duplicity.

    Knights of Columbus who used to require members to be
    "practicing Catholics" redefined themselves, via a document Jones
    holds up to ridicule, as "practical Catholics" - and what is that,
    exactly? -he asks.  "What, you don't spend too much money?  
    You take the bus?  What is it?  Who knows?"

    19 years ago, Jones dealt with the 'Knights' who were at that
    time defending pro-abortion politicians, and he says it's now
    grown and developed into 'Knights' who defend pro-sodomite
    politics and its promoters.  It's all bad, basically.  He says that as
    a journalist he has to take on the bad news because journalists
    never cover stories about planes that land safely.  They only
    cover plane crashes.

    This is worth listening to twice IMHO. Anyone who is already
    familiar with these names, dates, titles of documents, headlines,
    characters, issues an principles might get away with one listen,
    but I expect most of us are not that well-versed in it.  There is
    a lot of information here, and a lot of things you don't ever hear
    expressed all in one place.

    Jones fields a curve ball from Voris on anti-Semitism and takes
    it as an easy lob right down his alley. He dispatches the topic
    for the false distinction that it is.  Jones basically puts it into our
    current vernacular under the explanation of St. Augustine, as
    the two cities - the one that accepts Our Lord and the one that
    rejects Him in favor of Barabbas. It's as simple as that.

    Not a word here regarding the crisis in the SSPX, and it would
    seem that these two, Voris and Jones, might be ill-prepared to
    handle the subject.  They're concerned with 'larger' issues, but
    we on CI know that these are not unrelated themes.  For you
    would not have GREC or the Re-Branding project taking root in
    fertile soil if it were not for the widespread acceptance of the
    work of John Courtney Murray and the Knights of Columbus
    that effectively 'fertilized' it beforehand!

    It seems to me that the common theme is an undercurrent of a
    concern for respectability, and this is at the root of the agenda
    of the Menzingen-denizens who desire to be 'respectable' in the
    eyes of modernist Rome.

    There is unquestionably a lot to think about here.  You will not
    waste your time paying close attention to it.



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    E.Michael Jones interviewed by Voris
    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 08:19:34 AM »
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  • Thank you for this excellent synopsis!

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    E.Michael Jones interviewed by Voris
    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 07:53:21 PM »
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  • Is this a recent interview?
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    E.Michael Jones interviewed by Voris
    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 07:56:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Is this a recent interview?


    The "Roman Forum" series started to air in the summer of 2011, but that's one of the later episodes.  So farily recent.
    Confortare et esto vir.


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    E.Michael Jones interviewed by Voris
    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 10:48:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Is this a recent interview?


    I'm pretty sure it's about a year old I remember a certan caustic capricious calumniating corpulent "Catholic" blogger going nuts over Voris interviewing Dr. Jones with the usual "anti-Semite" allegations.

    FYI- he did a good interview about Nostra Aetate a few years ago too

    [YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xc4zhrG_x4I[/YouTube]

    It addresses the frequent misinterpretations that occur.

    There are some older interviews available on his site---> http://www.culturewars.com/Podcasts.html

    Should we start a E. Michael Jones thread with interview lists?   :scratchchin:
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