Eliz may want to consider that Mr Hoffman apparently accepts the v2 anti-popes just as she does.

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Eliz may want to consider that Mr Hoffman apparently accepts the v2 anti-popes just as she does.

 

Roscoe, I actually have a personal theory
about the V2 popes, but I do not have any authority whatsoever to make declarations either way.  For the time being, let us just say that I am a pre V2 person who knows the difference between the two churches.

The expression of a personal theory does not require that one be in a position of authority. You may wish not to disclose it, but that decision is a personal one as well. It is not the lack of authority that prohibits the expression.

OK.  My opinion is that Paul VI was either an anti-pope or had a body-double imposter.  Anyway he ditched the Tiara and elevated the UN  to savior staus on television, and had that abomination built for large gatherings and promulgated the New Mass and ran off all the Religious in droves.

My heart tells me that the Swiss exorcisms which revealed the Paul VI imposter are correct, but feelings are not facts.

I believe that the devil was enthroned at the Vatican at some point, and that is why the 300 exorcisists were refused entry to St. Peter's Square by JP Deuce.

I havn't got JPI figured out, but I believe he was murdered.  

JP2.   Oh, many years ago I was reading Malachi Martin, and oddly enough it was his work, I THINK it was The Final Conclave that encouraged my sense of the pope not being a real pope.  It may have been another of his books.  It most certainly was not The Keys to This Blood, because although he lays it all out, he insists on making excuses and excuses for JP2.  The charity he showed only had a reverse effect upon me.

So anyway, I already knew the N.O. religion was not the same Catholic Church, no doubt about it, and I was always trying to figure it out, and find the "underground church" MM used to speak of, but my resources were not so huge...But my husband and I did go see JP2 when he visited Baltimore, even though I had such misgivings, because I wanted so badly to love the Holy Father.

  We took a photo of him in the Popemobile and there are mystical rays pouring onto his head, it really looks like the Holy Ghost, I kid you not.

  Well, sadly I was never able to sustain any good popish Catholic reverence for JP2.

I remember when the Pope was the Pope, how it was knowing this.  (and I'll hand Michael Hoffmann this, his friend that old guy who wrote that KING KILL 33 I think was on target with what was going on, in a sense.  

So, I am very guilty of not believeing these have been true popes for a very long time.  Personally, if a pope says the UN is mankind's last great hope, or he prays with VooDoo devil worshippers I just can't believe he's Catholic.

BUT I have seen such disarray among the SV groups as to be very, very wary of believing the whole enchilada.

Also, I have nightmares about certain SSPX affiliated clergy.

It's a big mess.  I have been trying only to be Catholic in a crisis that I can't understand even though I read about it every day.   The past year or so I have been trying to live according to my station in life and stop the amateur theologian role.  

At this point, I have backed off of the SV Theory, although I as far as I am able to know it is not a forbidden subject, it is most certainly allowable for Catholics to debate.



And then I can't stand superior, elite sede vacantists being uncharitable about good souls who were raised Catholic and presume that whomever is in the Vatican is the pope  Having a Pope is one of the Four Marks of the Church and I cannot comprehend that some people act scandalised when a Catholic believes that so and so is the Pope.  I say, lucky for them, because it is miserable doubting all the time. :cry: :cry:  

I don't have time to do a better job of it, other duties call.
I pray that prayer "our Lady Mistress of the Home" against heresy and schism.  

I believe we are living the 3rd Secret of Fatima and it concerns the nature of the papacy and the salvation of souls, and that instead of worrying about the pope I need to do my very best to make sacrifices and do penance and pray for souls.

You left out John 23 so apparently you do not accept the Siri election.

It has only recently been brought to my attention that M Martin is a source for the election of Card Siri. Recall the sophism of Raoul who posted that if MM goes away , the story collapses.

There are numerous sources on the election that have been mentioned here many times.

There were thousands of people present in St Peter's sq that day and the whole scenario received at least wide local coverage. If you sre asking me who was the first to know about the story it probably was Card Siri or the anti-pope John 23. After that I do not know.

Sorry for the sloppiness above.

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I cannot speak for what he did or did not think.

Are you suggesting that sedetrad might have some form of Tourette syndrome?

Where do you get this stuff, "SJB"?  I suggested NOTHING, good, bad, or ugly.  Learn to READ a little more closely and remember your own favorite maxim: Contra factum non valet illatio.  You probably should have kept this in mind when you declared that "there must be something to it" about the "conspiracy" between sedetrad and me.

Yes, but that's irrelevant isn't it?

It is relevant insofar as, of late, you are manifesting a tendency to see a conspiracy where none exists ("Hello, Kettle, this is Pot.  You're black!").  Remember: Contra factum non valet illatio.

It is also of note that his partner Mr Hiembichner defames Card Rampolla( just like almost everyone else here on Cathinfo). For those who still don't get it, St Pius X appointed Card Rampolla as Chmn of Pontifical Commission of Biblical Studies.

For those like you who just "don't get" a lot, Mr Heimbichner and Mr Hoffman are not "partners", although one may purchase the former's book on the latter's website.

[/quote]I am just as suspicious of Hoffman as I am of M Martin. [/quote]

Then I suggest you get your "suspicion-o-meter" re-calibrated.