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Elizabeth · « **Reply #150 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »

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I think there is a valid opinion that the intervention of the government in this case would set a dangerous precedent...allowing the state to control the end of life. Do you allow opinions other than your own?

The government has the obligation to prevent murder. No one can legitimately support the starvation and dehydration of Terry Schiavo. No one can legitimately defend government non-interference in the case. There is no right to do what is wrong.

There's no surer proof that Father Cekada is not Catholic than his position on this.

:applause:

And as it turns out, SJB actually does have an opinion on the article he posted, despite pretending otherwise.

The followers of Fr. Cekada always SWITCH the point and try to manipulate those who point out how utterly depraved the apologists for Michael Schiavo and George Felos are.

Dressing such evil up in gobbldy-gook, intellectual pretentiousness, or in SJB's case, agreeing with Fleming.

Fleming is stupid, because he does not know that the right thing to do would be very easy:

Give Terri back to her Mother and Father who wanted to care for her. It's really simple. Michael wanted to kill Terri, and hired a euthanasia lawyer to finish the job. That was pure evil.

Any child can understand how evil the Terri Sciavo case is, and how depraved are those supporting Michael Schiavo.

Fr. Cekada's position on this is depraved and the Manuals prove it, SJB.

SJB · « **Reply #151 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:55:28 PM »

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I think there is a valid opinion that the intervention of the government in this case would set a dangerous precedent...allowing the state to control the end of life. Do you allow opinions other than your own?

The government has the obligation to prevent murder. No one can legitimately support the starvation and dehydration of Terry Schiavo. No one can legitimately defend government non-interference in the case. There is no right to do what is wrong.

Sure, and I agree. I don't think the refusal of water or ice chips can be defended at all. I quoted Thomas Fleming because I know there is no pre-existing opinion about him. But you didn't condemn him by name, did you? Why? Did he just have his facts wrong? Or is he a non-Catholic?

SJB · « **Reply #152 on:** September 19, 2009, 05:47:20 PM »

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I think there is a valid opinion that the intervention of the government in this case would set a dangerous precedent...allowing the state to control the end of life. Do you allow opinions other than your own?

The government has the obligation to prevent murder. No one can legitimately support the starvation and dehydration of Terry Schiavo. No one can legitimately defend government non-interference in the case. There is no right to do what is wrong.

There's no surer proof that Father Cekada is not Catholic than his position on this.

:applause:

And as it turns out, SJB actually does have an opinion on the article he posted, despite pretending otherwise.

The followers of Fr. Cekada always SWITCH the point and try to manipulate those who point out how utterly depraved the apologists for Michael Schiavo and George Felos are.

Dressing such evil up in gobbldy-gook, intellectual pretentiousness, or in SJB's case, agreeing with Fleming.

Fleming is stupid, because he does not know that the right thing to do would be very easy:

Give Terri back to her Mother and Father who wanted to care for her. It's really simple. Michael wanted to kill Terri, and hired a euthanasia lawyer to finish the job. That was pure evil.

Any child can understand how evil the Terri Sciavo case is, and how depraved are those supporting Michael Schiavo.

Fr. Cekada's position on this is depraved and the Manuals prove it, SJB.

You are so wrong on this one. I can show you my opinions at the time of the controversy and they are not what you think they are. You assume the worst, calling others "stupid" and "lazy". Take your petty hatred and bother somebody else with it.

You and some of your cohorts call others "non-Catholics" all while whining about "una-cuм". There seem to be some striking similarities between you and those you so dislike. You might want to have a think on that one.

You make almost everything turn towards a discussion on Schiavo. Belloc makes everything turn to a discussion on distributism. He's got one up on you. You are dogmatic about this, yet the Church has not weighed in on it DIRECTLY.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #153 on:** September 19, 2009, 07:52:08 PM »

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Is SJB Fr. Cekada?

Sorry you didn't like my opinion of Fleming's article, but you posted it. It seemed to me you were neutral about it. I am not neutral about euthanasia, nor is the Church.

:roll-laugh1: I'm not the one whining about "una cuм".

That would be your clergy at SGG who are whining about "una cuм". Go to an SSPX Mass and see what happens if you try to eneter SGG property. You know full well that a family was expelled and denied access to the property to hear a talk by Dr. Droleskey, because it is a "grave sin" to go to una cuм Benedict Masses. Plus, he was told he may lead to the damnation of others by his very presence. Why don't you tell them to "take their petty hatred and bother someone else with it"?

I make almost everything into a discussion about Terri Schiavo? Prove it. Maybe you just don't like the subject and it feels bad to become informed about it.

Chill out, SJB whoever you are. You are an aggressive debater-don't dish it out if you can't take it. :cheers:

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #154 on:** September 20, 2009, 10:15:40 AM »

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You assume the worst...Take your petty hatred and bother somebody else with it.

"Hello, Kettle? This is Pot. You're black." I know Elizabeth well, and she is more filled with real love than the vast majority of the inmates of Traddieland could even begin to comprehend.

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You and some of your cohorts call others "non-Catholics" all while whining about "una-cuм". There seem to be some striking similarities between you and those you so dislike. You might want to have a think on that one.

The first sentence contains a gross falsehood: strike one. Even if it was true, it is not ad rem/germane to the present discussion: strike two.

The last part can only be responded to with the same idea above ("Hello, Kettle..."), one I have rightly used as a response to your comments at least four times now (although you never address the fact, nor the fitness of the point I make in using this common saying).

Have a blessed Sunday, all.